Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

From: Henning P. Schmiedehausen (hps@tanstaafl.de)
Date: Fri Jan 26 2001 - 13:37:12 EST


kaboom@gatech.edu (Chris Ricker) writes:

>> If ECN is so wonderful, why doesn't anybody actually WANT to use it
>> anyway?

>Lots of people do. Lots of other people (such as, in this case, hotmail)
>will never upgrade their software until the groundswell of complaints is
>more expensive than their perception of the cost of upgrading....

Well, I guess, this is the price we must pay for having a monoculture
(a Cisco-powered) internet. If the single source of routers, switches
and network components (speak: Cisco) makes a single mistake in a
release version of their software (speak: drop ECN frames), everyone
suffers.

Cisco: If I buy a _new_ PIIX oder LDIR today, do I get an ECN capable
IOS or not? If not, will my CCNA know about this and upgrade my Box
before deploying?

Everyone I know and their brothers, that use Cisco Equipment, have a
support contract with Cisco. Why not push an "mandatory upgrade" along
this path once the ECN leaves "experimental" status.

But I definitely agree with HPA, that forcing ECN in its current state
on all users is unacceptable.

Solution that I see:

DaveM at RedHat ships Kernels with ECN enabled per default.
RedHat ships Distributions with net.ipv4.ip_ecn = 0 in /etc/sysctl.conf

Ah, the small bliss of diversity... ;-) (And this means not, running
both flavors of Linux, Debian _and_ RedHat... ;-) )

        Regards
                Henning

-- 
Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen       -- Geschaeftsfuehrer
INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH     hps@intermeta.de

Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/



This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Wed Jan 31 2001 - 21:00:25 EST