Re: [ACPI] ACPI mentioned on lwn.net/kernel

From: Dieter Nützel (Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de)
Date: Sun Jan 27 2002 - 18:58:47 EST

On Sunday, 27. January 2002 13:56, Martin Dalecki wrote:
> Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> > In article <jeelkes8y5.fsf@sykes.suse.de>,
> > Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> >>|>
> >>|> Storing 30% less executable pages in memory? Reading 30% less
> >>|> executable
> >>|> pages off the disk?
> >>
> >>These are all startup costs that are lost in the noise the longer the
> >>program runs.
> >>
> >
> >That's a load of bull.
> >
> >Startup costs tend to _dominate_ most applications, except for
> >benchmarks, scientific loads and games/multimedia.
> >
> Well the situation is in fact even more embarassing if you do true
> benchmarking on really long running (well that's relative of course)
> applications. I personaly did once in a time a benchmarking on the good old
> tex running trhough a few hundert pages long document. Well the -O2 version
> was actually about 15% *SLOWER* then the -Os version. That's becouse in real
> world applications, which don't do numerical calculations but most of the
> time they do "decision taking" the whole mulitpipline sceduling get's
> outwighted by the simple cache pressure thing by *far*.
>
> The whole GCC developement is badly misguided on this for *sure*. They
> develop for numerics where most programs are kind of doing a
> controlling/decision taking job.
> Well I know I should try this with the kernel one time...

I can second that.
Now that I'm running AMD Athlon's since August 1999 I found during 3D
development/benchmarking (OpenGL/Mesa) that the following GCC flags are
"best" for Athlon/Duron with gcc-2.95.3:

-O -mcpu=k6 -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -malign-functions=4
-fschedule-insns2 -fexpensive-optimizations

I even compile the whole kernel with a little different flags setting. It is
smaller and "faster" with them.

HOSTCFLAGS = -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O -fomit-frame-pointer -mcpu=k6
-pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -malign-functions=4 -fschedule-insns2
-fexpensive-optimizations

CFLAGS := $(CPPFLAGS) -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O \
          -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common

linux/arch/i386/Makefile:
ifdef CONFIG_MK7
CFLAGS += $(shell if $(CC) -march=athlon -S -o /dev/null -xc /dev/null
>/dev/null 2>&1; then echo "-march=athlon"; else echo "-mcpu=k6 -pipe
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -malign-functions=4 -fschedule-insns2
-fexpensive-optimizations"; fi)
endif

Regards,
        Dieter 

-- 
Dieter Nützel
Graduate Student, Computer Science

University of Hamburg
Department of Computer Science
@home: Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de
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