Re: [PATCH] cowlinks v2

[Jörn Engel]

On Thu, 25 March 2004 15:16:48 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > > 
> > > That is not useful for me or the other people who want to use this to
> > > duplicate large source trees and run "diff" between trees.
> > > 
> > > "diff" depends on being able to check if files in the two trees are
> > > identical -- by checking whether the inode number and device (and
> > > maybe other stat data) are identical.  This allows "diff -ur" between
> > > two cloned trees the size of linux to be quite fast.  Without that
> > > optimisation, it's very slow indeed.
> > 
> > I think the correct thing to do is to just admit that cowlinks aren't
> > POSIX, and instead see the inode number as a way to see whether the link
> > has been broken or not. Ie just accept the inode number potentially
> > changing.
> > 
> > That would make "diff" (adn most other uses) ok with this, and anythign 
> > that isn't, just couldn't be used with cowlinked files.
> 
> Really?
> 
> tar and cp still need to be taught about them.  And if they are not taught
> they will do the wrong thing and hard link the files removing the
> copy on write semantics.  Which would do ugly thing when you restore
> from your backup.
> 
> I don't have a problem with the inode number changing when you write to
> a file, because I can't think of much that would care either way.
> But having the inode number of an open file change sounds like a very
> difficult problem to track. 
> 
> Maybe aiming cow links at things like a live cd filesystem is too
> ambitious, but it sounds like a minimal clean way to handle all of
> the dependencies on writeable files that show up.  

Either method could work with some restrictions.  Either way, some
userspace tools need to be taught about the changes.  Personally I
don't care much either way, but the simple trick is already working on
my notebook and the problems are not too bad (not too good either).

BTW: sendfile() for ext[23] is finished, so the actual copy can be
done inside the kernel now.  Patch will follow soon. (-EBUSY)

Jörn

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