Re: Question from Russells Spinlocks
From: kernel-stuff
Date: Thu Dec 09 2004 - 16:18:10 EST
Spinlocks are used in situations where multiple threads contend for a lock and they can possibly run on more than one CPU. Example - Thread A is executing on CPU-A, Thread B in executing on CPU-B. They contend for a lock L1. A acquires the lock first. B tries (on CPU-B) to acquire the lock L1 and finds it is not free - so it just spins (executes a no-op kind of loop ) until Thread A relinquishes the lock L1.
Spinlocks are used in cases where the operation performed under a lock is short one - takes very less time. In these type of cases, spinning is less costlier than sleeping which involves scheduler overhead.
So if we take out CPU-B from the above equation - there is no chance for Thread B to execute to contend for lock L1 without thread A going to sleep. That's why spinlocks are useless on 1 CPU machine.
The comment about atomic_t - It is due to the fact that some ( IA-32 for e.g.) architectures guarantees atomicity of integer operations for only 24 bits. So you could possibly manipulate only 24 out of the 32 bits atomically - that's the hardware guarantee. The comments reflect this fact. (Pointers are 32bits on IA32 so it applies to pointer as well.)
Correct me if I am wrong :) !
Parag
>
> Hello there,
>
> I was reading Russell's guide on spinlocks, and I have some
> questions regarding it.
>
>
> Question--> Russell says that in case of non-SMP machines
> spinlocks don't exist _at_ALL_. Well they should do something don't they
> like disable interrupts and premptations. I checked linux/spinlock well
> they DO NOT do anything atleast not when DEBUG_SPINLOCKS == 0. My
> understanding is that since they aren't used anywhere outside kernel and
> drivers(?), they can't be prempted. At least that is what I have read.
>
>
> What does the comment about gcc while defining atomic_t signify?
> --> What about the comment about the limit of 24 bits on
> atomic_t?
> a) Atomic operations on integers are guranteed only if
> there value can be stored in 24 bits.
> b) Atomic operations are guranteed only if the pointer
> has 8 MSbits set zero.
>
>
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