Re: [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7

[Andi Kleen]

On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 10:34:56AM +0900, Takashi Ikebe wrote:
> I think that's the common sense in every carrier.
> If we reboot the switch, the service will be disrupted.
> The phone network is lifeline, and does not allow to be disrupt by just 
> bug fix.
> I think same kind of function is needed in many real 
> enterprise/mission-critical/business area.
> 
> All do with ptrace may affect target process's time critical task. (need 
> to stop target process whenever fix)

Sorry, but what are your exact time requirements for this? 

Remember any x86-64 CPU is really fast and it can do a _lot_ of ptrace
operations in a very short time.

Just a vague "it may be too slow" is not enough justification to 
push a lot of redundant code into the kernel. Also if ptrace
should be really too slow (which I doubt, but you are welcome
to show some numbers together with real time requirements from
a real system) then we could optimize ptrace for this, e.g.
by adding a ptrace subcommand to copy whole memory blocks
more efficiently or maybe even do a mmap like thing.

But unless someone actually demonstrates this is needed it seems far overkill. 

> All implement in user application costs too much, need to implement all 
> the application...(and I do not know this approach really works on time 
> critical applications yet.)

I think you have a lot of unproved and doubtful assumptions here.

-Andi
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/