Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch

From: Rob Landley
Date: Tue Nov 22 2005 - 11:35:09 EST

On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:30, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 10:07:12AM +0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> > Historically hackers were not too good at raising funds.
> >
> > Maybe we should use stuff which we are good at? Forcedeth
> > is a nice precedent. 2d and especially 3d engines
> > may be significantly harder to reverse engineer,
> > but people can scale rather nicely, as kernel development shows. ;)
> >
> > Then write specs from gained knowledge and put it on a web page.
> Yes, IMO this is the only realistic path, without cooperation from
> This is why I dislike the ATI r300 rev-eng effort: I cannot find any
> "Chinese wall": one team rev-engs the hardware and writes a doc.
> Another team writes the drivers from the docs.

If they're reverse engineering the hardware, why would you need a chinese
wall? Compaq was turning x86 assembly code into x86 assembly code and had to
prove that the new x86 code didn't infringe the copyright on the old x86
code. They weren't turning port I/O and DMA logs into C code...

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