Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch

From: Brian Gerst
Date: Tue Nov 22 2005 - 12:35:19 EST

Jeff Garzik wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 06:40:20PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
Jeff Garzik wrote:

On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 06:14:56PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:

You exaggerate. Windows drivers work well enough in Windows (or so I presume). One just has to implement the environment these drivers expect, very carefully.

I exaggerate nothing -- we have real world experience with ndiswrapper
and similar software, which is exactly the same model you proposed, is
exactly the same model that has created all sorts of technical, legal,
and political problems.

I agree that the legal and political problems are real. I offered two solutions to the technical problems.

And given real world experience with "solutions" like this, they cause
more problems than they solve.

However the situation with video drivers is already bad, and deteriorating. I had to hunt on the Internet to get my recent (FC4) distro to support my low-end embedded video (via). In the future it looks like even that won't work.

VIA is working with open source community. They are small enough
(comparatively) that they need every advantage. VIA is one of the
positive examples.

The biggest problem with VIA (and Intel) is that they are only available as integrated video on the motherboard. I can't just walk to the store and pick one up off the shelf. I have yet to see any AMD64 motherboards with these chipsets either.

Brian Gerst
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