Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism

From: James Courtier-Dutton
Date: Thu Dec 15 2005 - 06:41:19 EST


Mitchell Blank Jr wrote:
James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

When I had the conversation with Matt at KS, the problem we were trying to solve was "Memory pressure with network attached swap space".


s/swap space/writable filesystems/

You can hit these problems even if you have no swap. Too much of the
memory becomes filled with dirty pages needing writeback -- then you lose
your NFS server's ARP entry at the wrong moment. If you have a local disk
to swap to the machine will recover after a little bit of grinding, otherwise
it's all pretty much over.

The big problem is that as long as there's network I/O coming in it's
likely that pages you free (as the VM gets more and more desperate about
dropping the few remaining non-dirty pages) will get used for sockets
that AREN'T helping you recover RAM. You really need to be able to tell
the whole network stack "we're in really rough shape here; ignore all RX
work unless it's going to help me get write ACKs back from my {NFS,iSCSI}
server" My understanding is that is what this patchset is trying to
accomplish.

-Mitch



You are using the wrong hammer to crack your nut.
You should instead approach your problem of why the ARP entry gets lost.
For example, you could give as critical priority to your TCP session, but that still won't cure your ARP problem.
I would suggest that the best way to cure your arp problem, is to increase the time between arp cache refreshes.

James

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