Re: [patch 1/1] consolidate TRUE and FALSE

[Anton Altaparmakov]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Al Viro wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 04:42:29PM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> > Again, in your opinion.  To me it is a simple consequence of there not 
> > being a boolean type in the kernel so you cannot use it in the core code.  
> > Once there is such a type I would imagine users will appear in the core 
> > code over time.
> 
> And that's supposed to be an argument in favour of that crap?

No, it was an alternative interpretation to Christoph's statement that the 
non-use of booleans was due to them being crap.  So I said that you can't 
use what you don't have and I imagine the majority of people do not want 
these pointless flamewars so no-one has so far bothered to introduce a 
generic bollean type in the kernel...

Andy why is it crap?  For a start it is valid C (well, ok C99, but even 
you are fond of a lot of C99 features like the initializers) and second 
it makes code more readable and makes meaning of functions a lot more 
obvious, e.g reading:

"extern bool foo_is_compressed(bar);"

in a header file makes it damn obvious that if foo_is_compressed() returns 
"true" then "bar" is compressed and if it returns "false" then "bar" is 
not compressed.

If you see:

"extern int foo_is_compressed(bar);"

You have to go find the .c file containing the function and read it to 
figure out what the heck the return value means/is.  And don't tell me you 
can rely on it returning 0 for not-compressed and 1 for compressed.  For a 
start it could return < 0 for error and a myriad of other things.  
Especially in the kernel core the functions like that seem to randomly 
return 0 for true and 1 for false and worse.  But even if they were 
consistent you could never rule out the < 0 for error case unless you read 
the function itself.

So I beg to differ with your opinion of boolean type being crap.

As you might have noticed already, I think booleans have their place and 
make code much more readable when used appropriately.  I have only been 
programming for the last 24 years and I like booleans and no-one is going 
to get me to think otherwise after such a long time...

I am happy to agree that we disagree.  Just stay away with s/true/1/ 
and s/false/0/ conversions from fs/ntfs/ please and I will shut up...  (-:

Best regards,

	Anton
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