Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability

[dirk husemann]

Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
>   
>>  Pavel> I do not think suspend2 works on more machines than in-kernel
>>  Pavel> swsusp. Problems are in drivers, and drivers are shared.
>>
>>  Pavel> That means that if you have machine where suspend2 works and
>>  Pavel> swsusp does not, please tell me. I do not think there are many
>>  Pavel> of them.
>>
>> Accept the facts -- for some reason, there is a fairly large user base
>> that goes to all the bother of using suspend2, which requires
>>     
> ...
>   
>> That is a fact, and all the hand waving won't change it.
>>     
>
> Users like suspend2 eye candy => swsusp must be unreliable?
>   
oh, come on. that's a pretty cheap argument. let me tell you i tried
swsusp (admittedly a while ago) couldn't get it to run reliably on
several laptops, went for suspend2 --- and it worked rather well. i
certainly didn't go for suspend2 because of its "eye candy"...

this is not about eye candy, this is about pragmatism: suspend2 seems to
work on a lot more platforms than what is currently in the kernel.
> I know users that installed swsusp, decided they want progress bars,
> and went for suspend2.
>
>   
>> I'm tired of this. It's taking years for Linux to get reasonably working
>> suspend facilities, which is a shame. In my opinion a large part of the
>> problem is you opposing Nigel's patches. Problem is, for many people
>> Nigel's code works while yours does not.
>>     
>
> Nigel only submitted his code once, month or so ago, as series of 200
> or so patches. Do not blame me for _that_.
>   
IIRC correctly he did try earlier and was told to come back when he had
his code subdivided in little pieces.

    dirk

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