Re: [patch] spinlocks: remove 'volatile'

From: Avi Kivity
Date: Sat Jul 08 2006 - 04:40:39 EST


Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Mark Lord wrote:

>
> I'm still browsing a copy here, but so far have only really found this:
>
> A volatile declaration may be used to describe an object corresponding
> to a memory-mapped input/output port or an object accessed by an
> aysnchronously interrupting function. Actions on objects so declared
> shall not be "optimized out" by an implementation or reordered except
> as permitted by the rules for evaluating expressions.

Note that the "reordered" is totally pointless.

The _hardware_ will re-order accesses. Which is the whole point.
"volatile" is basically never sufficient in itself.

So the definition of "volatile" literally made sense three or four decades
ago. It's not sensible any more.


It could be argued that gcc's implementation of volatile is wrong, and that gcc should add the appropriate serializing instructions before and after volatile accesses.

Of course, that would make volatile even more suboptimal, but at least correct.

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