RE: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by regarding reiser4 inclusion

From: André Goddard Rosa
Date: Sun Jul 23 2006 - 14:24:05 EST

Jeff Garzik wrote:
Hans Reiser wrote:
> Theodore Tso wrote:
>> Actually, the first bits
> yes, the first bits.... other people send in completed filesystems....

Completed filesystems have a much higher barrier to entry, because they
require a fresh review.

ext4 will go upstream MUCH faster, because it follows the standard
process of Linux evolution, building on top of existing code with
progressive changes:

Hi, Hans!

I think you are mostly right in your conclusions, it is sad but
true that we lose very good developers sometimes. I hope this
can be changed by emails like yours in the long run.

I would like to see you and Christoph working again with synergy
(with harmony), but you have insulted him in the past. I regret this
happened and I think reiser4 would be already with us all if you had
focused at the technical discussion with him. I know that sometimes
it is difficult but we must all learn with Greg Kroah-Hartman, one of
the major contributors in volume to the kernel: be highly diplomatic
and respectfull. See more here:

The arguments Jeff presented are super strong and are backed by an
entire past thread where Linus and others share a sharp clear vision
which I think that works very well in practice:

They are _right_ (tm) here. We all know they are from our experiences
in past mistakes.

I would like to thank you for reiser4, it is great! Please use your
diplomacy to get more reviews. After getting the code reviewed, fix the
complaints or discuss technically your POV.
We all want reiser4 in (I do think it is great), but after reviewed by the
filesystem experts.

Thank you and the reiser4 team!

André Goddard
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