Re: [ckrm-tech] [PATCH] BC: resource beancounters (v4) (added usermemory)

[Balbir Singh]

Pavel Emelianov wrote:
> Balbir Singh wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > This approach has the following disadvantages
> >  1. Lets consider initialization - When we create 'n' groups
> > initially, we need
> >     to spend O(n^2) time to assign guarantees.
>
> 1. Not guarantees - limits. If you do not need guarantees - assign
>    overcommited limits. Most of OpenVZ users do so and nobody claims.
> 2. If you start n groups at once then limits are calculated in O(n)
>    time, not O(n^2).

Yes.. if you start them at once, but if they are incrementally
added and started it is O(n^2)

> >  2. Every time a limit or a guarantee changes, we need to recalculate
> > guarantees
> >     and ensure that the change will not break any guarantees
>
> The same.
>
> >  3. The same thing as stated above, when a resource group is created
> > or deleted
> >
> > This can lead to some instability; a change in one group propagates to
> > all other groups.
>
> Let me cite a part of your answer on my letter from 11.09.2006:
> "...
>   xemul> I have a node with 1Gb of ram and 10 containers with 100Mb
>   xemul> guarantee each. I want to start one more.
>   xemul> What shall I do not to break guarantees?
>
>  Don't start the new container or change the guarantees of the
>  existing ones to accommodate this one ... It would be perfectly
>  ok to have a container that does not care about guarantees to
>  set their guarantee to 0 and set their limit to the desired value
> ..."
>
> The same for the limiting - either do not start new container, or
> recalculate limits to meet new requirements. You may not take care of
> guarantees as weel and create an overcommited configuration.
>
> And one more thing. We've asked it many times and I ask it again -
> please, show us the other way for providing guarantee rather than
> limiting or reserving.

There are some other options, I am sure Chandra will probably have
more.

1. Reclaim resources from other containers. This can be done well for
   user-pages, if we ensure that each container does not mlock more
   than its guaranteed share of memory.
2. Provide best effort guarantees for non-reclaimable memory
3. oom-kill a container or a task within a resource group that has
   exceeded its guarantee and some other container is unable to meet its
   guarantee

--

	Balbir Singh,
	Linux Technology Center,
	IBM Software Labs
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