Re: Inquiry data and emulated SG devices
From: James Bottomley
Date: Thu Oct 18 2007 - 06:58:01 EST
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 21:31 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Robert Hancock wrote:
> > This doesn't seem a very reliable way to identify an IDE device, as all
> > that 0 means is that the device does not claim conformance to any
> > standard. I would think it would be legitimate for an IDE device to put
> > a value like 5 in there as well, if it complies with SPC-4..
>
> Via the this-doesnt-really-matter-but-it-should-be-noted department:
>
> According to the latest on t10.org, MMC retroactively permitted SCSI
> version to be zero, for MMC-compliant USB and ATAPI devices.
>
>
> > In the case of libata though, that appears to be due to this code in
> > drivers/ata/libata-scsi.c:
> >
> > /* ATAPI devices typically report zero for their SCSI version,
> > * and sometimes deviate from the spec WRT response data
> > * format. If SCSI version is reported as zero like normal,
> > * then we make the following fixups: 1) Fake MMC-5 version,
> > * to indicate to the Linux scsi midlayer this is a modern
> > * device. 2) Ensure response data format / ATAPI information
> > * are always correct.
> > */
> > if (buf[2] == 0) {
> > buf[2] = 0x5;
> > buf[3] = 0x32;
> > }
> >
> > This technically seems to go against what the SCSI/ATA Translation (SAT)
> > spec says regarding INQUIRY on ATAPI devices: "the SATL shall use the
> > ATA PACKET Command feature set to pass all INQUIRY commands and
> > parameter data to the ATAPI device without altering the INQUIRY
> > commands or the parameter data." However, it might realistically be
> > needed if the SCSI layer in the kernel has problems with a device
> > indicating it supports no SCSI version..
>
> The above tweak is entirely software->software communication... as the
> comment you quoted notes, it's just a signal to the SCSI midlayer.
>
> At the moment, the SCSI midlayer assumes any device that reports scsi
> version as less than 2 is forced to SCSI version 2. Ultimately that's
> incorrect behavior for all ATAPI devices (and later MMC revisions).
Actually, no we don't. SCSI level 0 means "no compliant standard
specified". We're quite careful if we see this not to do anything that
might upset the device ... SCSI level 0 is a fairly usual thing to see
on USB devices, which is why we process it differently.
> At the time, libata simply worked around this SCSI buglet in its own
> code, since that was easier than auditing all SCSI code paths to ensure
> new ATAPI/USB MMC logic does not break ancient devices.
>
> But if someone is motivated enough to revisit this...
Like I said, it should all be fixed ... if you try it.
James
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/