Re: [lm-sensors] [REGRESSION, ABI] Re: LMSENSORS: 2.6.26-rc, enablingACPI Termal Zone support costs sensors

[Rene Herman]

On 22-06-08 20:07, Hans de Goede wrote:

> Rene Herman wrote:
> > On 22-06-08 16:29, Hans de Goede wrote:
> >
> > > Rene Herman wrote:
> > > > This is an ABI breakage issue and an unfortunate one at that:
> > >
> > > No it is not, in 2.6.26rcX, the acpi thermalzones have grown a hwmon 
> > > interface, that is they register a hwmon device so that "sensors" and
> >
> > [ ... ]
> >
> > Now what? Yes it is. 2.6.25.7 works and 2.6.26-rcX with the same 
> > config options and the same userspace does not.
>
> Know what? No it isn't. Just because some random userspace apps breaks 
> because certain _assumptions_ no longer hold true, does not make 
> something an ABI breakage.
>
> I agree with you that the results are still no good though.
>
> Know something else? I've just stopped caring about this issue, I'm not 
> the author of the changes causing said breakage. I'm merely an 
> lm_sensors (both userspace and kernel space) developer who was heavily 
> involved in getting this fixed for lm_sensors-3.0.2, and I believe that 
> adding yet another kconfig option which we then carry for years and 
> years is _not_ a good solution. Some userspace utlities like udev sit 
> very close to the kernel and sometimes an kernel update mandates a new 
> udev. To me this is much the same.
>
> But at the end of the day, I do not feel responsible for this as I'm not 
> the author of the code causing the breakage. I'm just someone who knows 
> the ins and outs and tried to help, but given the treatment and thanks 
> I've been getting for my help I'm stopping with helping now.

What on earth are you talking about? Could you please re-read? I didn't 
 "treat badly" you, hwmon, acpi or whatever.

I'm simply pointing out the problem that 2.6.26 is going to break all 
setups using lm_sensors 2.0 (which among many, many others includes 
every single slackware and derivative system on the planet).

We are not having a flamewar. If you think that every disagreement or 
pointing out of a problem constitutes as much, that in itself is a 
problem but it's not mine. I reported the problem and then posted a 
patch that solves it one particular way.

Another way to solve it _could_ be to just make up a device link if 
something generic is available so that sensors doesn't trip over it in 
the first place but I don't know if that's a good option. You might.

I haven't a clue what you're talking about. Treatment? What treatment? I 
just want to get the above mentioned problem fixed and didn't suggest 
anything else. Let's get the problem fixed.

Rene.
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