Re: [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout
From: Hidetoshi Seto
Date: Mon Jul 14 2008 - 22:25:55 EST
Heiko Carstens wrote:
> Hmm.. probably a stupid question: but what could happen that a real cpu
> (not virtual) becomes unresponsive so that it won't schedule a MAX_RT_PRIO-1
> prioritized task for 5 seconds?
The original problem (once I heard and easily reproduced) was there was an
another MAX_RT_PRIO-1 task and the task was spinning in itself by a bug.
(Now this would not be a problem since RLIMIT_RTTIME will work for it, but
I cannot deny that there are some situations which cannot set the limit.)
However there would be more possible problem in the world, ex. assume that
a routine work with interrupt (and also preemption) disabled have an issue
of scalability so it takes long time on huge machine then stop_machine will
stop whole system such long time. You can assume a driver's bug. Now the
stop_machine is good tool to escalate a partial problem to global suddenly.
>> So I think monotonic wallclock time actually makes the most sense here.
>
> This is asking for trouble... a config option to disable this would be
> nice. But as I don't know which problem this patch originally addresses
> it might be that this is needed anyway. So lets see why we need it first.
I'm not good at VM etc., but I think user doesn't care who holds a cpu,
whether other guest or actual buggy software or space alien or so.
The important thing here is return control to user if timeout.
Thanks,
H.Seto
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