Re: [RFC-PATCH 1/5] unaligned: introduce common header
From: Harvey Harrison
Date: Mon Nov 10 2008 - 11:51:43 EST
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:49 +0000, Will Newton wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Harvey Harrison
> <harvey.harrison@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> (add back lkml cc that I mistakenly dropped)
>
> > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 12:47 +0000, Will Newton wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Harvey Harrison
> >> <harvey.harrison@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> > The memmove-based arches (m32r, xtensa, h8300) are likely going to be fine with this change
> >> > barring compiler bugs that made them go with memmove in the first place.
> >>
> >> As I understand it the need for the memmove implementation is not
> >> compiler bugs but default struct alignment. The packed struct
> >> implementation will only work with compilers where structs can be
> >> aligned on byte boundaries, it's fairly common for RISC architectures
> >> to align structs to 4 or 8 byte boundaries.
> >
> > Which I believe is disabled entirely using __attribute__((packed)), no?
>
> As far as I am aware the packed attribute is handled in this way for
> some toolchains (arm in particular). Not everybody does it, and for
> good reasons. For example if I have this struct on an architecture
> with 8 byte default struct alignment:
>
I should have been more careful with my wording here, I meant that no
alignment assumptions are made when accessing a packed struct through
a pointer, as is the case with the kernel version.
> struct foo {
> u64 big_data;
> u8 small_data;
> u32 medium_data;
> } __attribute__((packed));
>
> Should big_data be accessed as 8 byte load instructions rather than
> one 64bit load instruction? It's a pretty large performance penalty to
> pay when all I really want is for medium_data to be accessed
> correctly.
In this particular case, packed isn't right as you know big_data is
aligned (as long as you can guarantee the struct alignment), so you'd
probably want:
struct foo {
u64 big_data;
u8 small_data;
u32 medium_data __attribute__((__packed__));
}
But that's not what we're talking about in the kernel's case.
Harvey
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