Re: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove singleipi fallback for smp_call_function_many())

From: Ingo Molnar
Date: Thu Feb 19 2009 - 07:21:32 EST



* Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:17 -0800, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > > Indeed that could cause problems on some architectures which I
> > > > had hoped to avoid. So the patch is probably better off to first
> > > > add the smp_mb() to arch_send_call_function_xxx arch code, unless
> > > > it is immediately obvious or confirmed by arch maintainer that
> > > > such barrier is not required.
> > >
> > > For x2apic specific operations we should add the smp_mb() sequence. But
> > > we need to make sure that we don't end up doing it twice (once in
> > > generic code and another in arch code) for all the ipi paths.
> >
> > right now we do have an smp_mb() due to your fix in November.
> >
> > So what should happen is to move that smp_mb() from the x86
> > generic IPI path to the x86 x2apic IPI path. (and turn it into
> > an smp_wmb() - that should be enough - we dont care about future
> > reads being done sooner than this point.)
>
> Ingo, smp_wmb() won't help. x2apic register writes can still
> go ahead of the sfence. According to the SDM, we need a
> serializing instruction or mfence. Our internal experiments
> also proved this.

ah, yes - i got confused about how an x2apic write can pass a
_store_ fence.

The reason is that an MSR write is a register->register move
(not a memory write), so it it not part of the generic memory
ordering machinery. So a serializing instruction it has to be.

> Appended is the x86 portion of the patch: ---
>
> From: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: x86: move smp_mb() in x86 flush tlb path to x2apic specific IPI
> paths

Could you please refresh this patch to latest tip:master? The
APIC drivers moved to arch/x86/kernel/apic/.

Ingo
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