Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

[Arve Hjønnevåg]

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 15:19 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 May 2010, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>
>> > I still don't see how blocking applications will cause missed wakeups in
>> > anything but a buggy application at worst, and even those will
>> > eventually get the event when they unblock.
>> >
>> > What seems to be the confusion?
>>
>> During forced suspend, applications are block because they are frozen.
>>
>> When an event occurs, the application is notified somehow.  But it
>> can't respond because it is frozen.  Hence the event remains sitting in
>> a kernel queue and the system goes ahead and suspends anyway.  The
>> application doesn't get thawed until the system wakes up at some
>> indefinite time in the future.
>
> If the kernel is awake to put things in queues, we're clearly not
> suspended and userspace is running ?!

Suspend is not an atomic operation. User space is frozen before
freezable kernel threads both of these happen before drivers are
suspended.

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Arve Hjønnevåg
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