Re: [RFC] page-table walkers vs memory order
From: Paul E. McKenney
Date: Mon Jul 30 2012 - 16:30:45 EST
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 08:21:40PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Does some version of gcc, under the options which we insist upon,
> > > make such optimizations on any of the architectures which we support?
> >
> > Pretty much any production-quality compiler will do double-fetch
> > and old-value-reuse optimizations, the former especially on 32-bit
> > x86. I don't know of any production-quality compilers that do value
> > speculation, which would make the compiler act like DEC Alpha hardware,
> > and I would hope that if this does appear, (1) we would have warning
> > and (2) it could be turned off. But there has been a lot of work on
> > this topic, so we would be foolish to rule it out.
>
> GCC documentation for IA-64:
>
> -msched-ar-data-spec
> -mno-sched-ar-data-spec
> (En/Dis)able data speculative scheduling after reload. This results
> in generation of ld.a instructions and the corresponding check
> instructions (ld.c / chk.a). The default is 'enable'.
>
> I don't know if that results in value speculation of the relevant kind.
If I remember correctly, the chk.a instruction will detect failed
speculation via cache state and deal with the situation correctly,
but I really need to defer to someone with more recent IA-64 experience.
Thanx, Paul
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