Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [RFC 0/2] DMA-mapping & IOMMU - physicallycontiguous allocations

From: Inki Dae
Date: Tue Oct 16 2012 - 07:11:32 EST

Hi Russell,

2012/10/16 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 07:12:49PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>> Hi Hiroshi,
>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean but we had already tried this
>> way and for this, you can refer to below link,
>> but this way had been pointed out by drm guys because the pages could
>> be used through gem object after that pages had been freed by free()
>> anyway their pointing was reasonable and I'm trying another way, this
>> is the way that the pages to user space has same life time with dma
>> operation. in other word, if dma completed access to that pages then
>> also that pages will be freed. actually drm-based via driver of
>> mainline kernel is using same way
> I don't know about Hiroshi, but the above "sentence" - and I mean the 7
> line sentence - is very difficult to understand and wears readers out.

Sorry for this. Please see below comments.

> If your GPU hardware has a MMU, then the problem of dealing with userspace
> pages is very easy. Do it the same way that the i915 driver and the rest
> of DRM does. Use shmem backed memory.
> I'm doing that for the Dove DRM driver and it works a real treat, and as
> the pages are backed by page cache pages, you can use all the normal
> page refcounting on them to prevent them being freed until your DMA has
> completed. All my X pixmaps are shmem backed drm objects, except for
> the scanout buffers which are dumb drm objects (because they must be
> contiguous.)
> In fact, get_user_pages() will take the reference for you before you pass
> them over to dma_map_sg(). On completion of DMA, you just need to use
> dma_unmap_sg() and release each page.

It's exactly same as ours. Besides, I know get_user_pages() takes 2
reference counts if the user process has never accessed user region
allocated by malloc(). Then, if the user calls free(), the page
reference count becomes 1 and becomes 0 with put_page() call. And the
reverse holds as well. This means how the pages backed are used by dma
and freed. dma_map_sg() just does cache operation properly and maps
these pages with iommu table. There may be my missing point.

Inki Dae

> If you don't want to use get_user_pages() (which other drivers don't) then
> you need to following the i915 example and get each page out of shmem
> individually.
> (My situation on the Dove hardware is a little different, because the
> kernel DRM driver isn't involved with the GPU - it merely provides the
> memory for pixmaps. The GPU software stack, being a chunk of closed
> source userspace library with open source kernel driver, means that
> things are more complicated; the kernel side GPU driver uses
> get_user_pages() to pin them prior to building the GPU's MMU table.)
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