Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] mutex: add support for reservation style locks,v2
From: Peter Zijlstra
Date: Mon Apr 08 2013 - 06:39:53 EST
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 18:56 +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> In this case when O blocks Y isn't actually blocked, so our
> >> TASK_DEADLOCK wakeup doesn't actually achieve anything.
> >>
> >> This means we also have to track (task) state so that once Y tries to
> >> acquire A (creating the actual deadlock) we'll not wait so our
> >> TASK_DEADLOCK wakeup doesn't actually achieve anything.
> >>
> >> Note that Y doesn't need to acquire A in order to return -EDEADLK, any
> >> acquisition from the same set (see below) would return -EDEADLK even if
> >> there isn't an actual deadlock. This is the cost of heuristic; we could
> >> walk the actual block graph but that would be prohibitively expensive
> >> since we'd have to do this on every acquire.
> >
> > Hm, I guess your aim with the TASK_DEADLOCK wakeup is to bound the wait
> > times of older task. This could be interesting for RT, but I'm unsure of
> > the implications. The trick with the current code is that the oldest task
> > will never see an -EAGAIN ever and hence is guaranteed to make forward
> > progress. If the task is really unlucky though it might be forced to wait
> > for a younger task for every ww_mutex it tries to acquire.
>
> [Aside: I'm writing this while your replies trickle in, but I think
> it's not yet answered already.]
>
> Ok, I've discussed this a lot with Maarten on irc and I think I see a
> bit clearer now what's the aim with the new sleep state. Or at least I
> have an illusion about it ;-) So let me try to recap my understanding
> to check whether we're talking roughly about the same idea.
>
> I think for starters we need to have a slightly more interesting example:
>
> 3 threads O, M, Y: O has the oldest ww_age/ticket, Y the youngest, M
> is in between.
> 2 ww_mutexes: A, B
>
> Y has already acquired ww_mutex A, M has already acquired ww_mutex B.
>
> Now O wants to acquire B and M wants to acquire A (let's ignore
> detailed ordering for now), resulting in O blocking on M (M holds B
> already, but O is older) and M blocking on Y (same for lock B).
drawing the picture for myself:
task-O task-M task-Y
A
B
B
A
> Now first question to check my understanding: Your aim with that
> special wakeup is to kick M so that it backs off and drops B? That way
> O does not need to wait for Y to complete whatever it's currently
> doing, unlock A and then in turn M to complete whatever it's doing so
> that it can unlock A&B and finally allows O to grab the lock.
No, we always need to wait for locks to be unlocked. The sole purpose
of the special wakeups state is to not wake other (!ww_mutex) locks
that might be held by the task holding the contended ww_mutex. While
all schedule() sites should deal with spurious wakeups its a sad fact
of life that they do not :/
> Presuming I'm still following we should be able to fix this with the
> new sleep state TASK_DEADLOCK and a flag somewhere in the thread info
> (let's call it PF_GTFO for simplicity).
I'm reading "Get The F*ck Out" ? I like the name, except PF_flags are
unsuitable since they are not atomic and we'd need to set it from
another thread.
> Then every time a task does a
> blocking wait on a ww_mutex it would set this special sleep state and
> also check the PF_GTFO bit.
So its the contending task (O for B) setting PF_GTFO on the owning task
(M for B), right?
But yeah, all ww_mutex sleep states should have the new TASK_DEADLOCK
sleep state added.
> If the later is set, it bails out with
> -EAGAIN (so that all locks are dropped).
I would really rather see -EDEADLK for that..
> Now if a task wants to take a lock and notices that it's held by a
> younger locker it can set that flag and wake the thread up (need to
> think about all the races a bit, but we should be able to make this
> work). Then it can do the normal blocking mutex slowpath and wait for
> the unlock.
Right.
> Now if O and M race a bit against each another M should either get
> woken (if it's already blocked on Y) and back off, or notice that the
> thread flag is set before it even tries to grab another mutex
ww_mutex, it should block just fine on regular mutexes and other
primitives.
> (and so
> before the block tree can extend further to Y). And the special sleep
> state is to make sure we don't cause any other spurious interrupts.
Right, I think we're understanding one another here.
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