Re: [patch 0/3] futex/rtmutex: Fix issues exposed by trinity

From: Carlos O'Donell
Date: Fri May 16 2014 - 13:56:41 EST


On 05/14/2014 06:28 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 14 May 2014, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:53:44AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>> What error would we return?
>>>>
>>>> This particular case is a serious error for which we have no good error code
>>>> to return to userspace. It's an implementation defect, a bug, we should probably
>>>> assert instead of pausing.
>>>
>>> Errm.
>>>
>>> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/7908799/xsh/pthread_mutex_lock.html
>>>
>>> The pthread_mutex_lock() function may fail if:
>>>
>>> [EDEADLK]
>>> The current thread already owns the mutex.
>>>
>>> That's a exactly the error code, which the kernel returns when it
>>> detects a deadlock.
>>>
>>> And glibc returns EDEADLK at a lot of places already. So in that case
>>> it's not a serious error? Because it's detected by glibc. You can't be
>>> serious about that.
>>>
>>> So why is a kernel detected deadlock different? Because it detects not
>>> only AA, it detects ABBA and more. But it's still a dead lock. And
>>> while posix spec only talks about AA, it's the very same issue.
>>>
>>> So why not propagate this to the caller so he gets an alert right away
>>> instead of letting him attach a debugger, and scratch his head and
>>> lookup glibc source to find out why the hell glibc called pause.
>>
>> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/pthread_mutex_lock.html
>
> Yuck. I should not have used the first link Gurgle brought up.

For the record the correct link is for POSIX Issue 7 (Issue 8 under development).

http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/pthread_mutex_lock.html

The Issue 7 version has a nice table :}

Cheers,
Carlos.

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