Re: [PATCH 0/5] fuse: close file synchronously (v2)
From: Maxim Patlasov
Date: Thu Aug 14 2014 - 08:14:28 EST
On 08/13/2014 04:44 PM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Maxim Patlasov <MPatlasov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
There is a long-standing demand for synchronous behaviour of fuse_release:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=19343889
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=29814693
A year ago Avati and me explained why such a feature would be useful:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=29889055
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=29867423
In short, the problem is that fuse_release (that's called on last user
close(2)) sends FUSE_RELEASE to userspace and returns without waiting for
ACK from userspace. Consequently, there is a gap when user regards the
file released while userspace fuse is still working on it. An attempt to
access the file from another node leads to complicated synchronization
problems because the first node still "holds" the file.
Tying RELEASE to close(2) is not going to work. Look at all the
places that call fput() (or fdput() in recent kernels), those are all
potential triggers for RELEASE, some realistic, some not quite, but
all are certainly places that a synchronous release could block
*instead* of close.
Which just means, that close will still be asynchronous with release
some of the time. So it's not clear to me what is to be gained from
this patchset.
The patch-set doesn't tie RELEASE to close(2), it ensures that we report
to user space exactly the last fput(). That's correct because this is
exactly the moment when any file system with sharing mode connected to
open/close must drop sharing mode. This is the case even for some local
filesystems, for example, ntfs-3g.
Could you please look closely at your commit
5a18ec176c934ca1bc9dc61580a5e0e90a9b5733. It actually implemented two
different things: 1) synchronous release and 2) delayed path_put. The
latter was well explained by the comment:
> /*
> * If this is a fuseblk mount, then it's possible that
> * releasing the path will result in releasing the
> * super block and sending the DESTROY request. If
> * the server is single threaded, this would hang.
> * For this reason do the path_put() in a separate
> * thread.
> */
So it's clear why the delay needed and why it's bound to fuseblk
condition. But synchronous close was made under the same condition,
which is obviously wrong. I understand why you made that decision in
2011: otherwise, we could block in a wrong context (last decrement of
ff->count might happen in scope of read-ahead or mmap-ed writeback). But
now, with the approach implemented in this patch-set, this is impossible
-- we wait for completion of all async operations before triggering
synchronous release. Thus the patch-set untie a functionality which
already existed before (synchronous release) from wrong condition
(fuseblk mount) putting it under well-defined control (FUSE_CLOSE_WAIT).
Thanks,
Maxim
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