Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] dt: dependencies (for deterministic driver initialization order based on the DT)

[Alexander Holler]

Am 26.08.2014 12:44, schrieb Alexander Holler:
> Am 26.08.2014 12:25, schrieb Thierry Reding:
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:42:04AM +0200, Alexander Holler wrote:
>
> > > You need either the type information in the DTB (that's why I've add
> > > those
> > > "dependencies" to identify phandles), or you need to know every
> > > binding (at
> > > "dependency-resolve-time" to identify phandles. The latter is
> > > impracticable
> > > to implement in a generic way (for use with every possible binding).
> >
> > Like I already mentioned, this could be done in drivers who contain that
> > information already anyway. Or parts of it could be done in subsystem-
> > specific callbacks where a generic binding is available.
>
> That would end up with almost the same ugly driver-based workarounds as
> now. It's much better if a driver author only has to define it's
> prerequisits (in form of dependencies in the dts) and could be sure the
> driver will only be probed if those are met, than to do that stuff based
> on a subsystem or even driver level.
>
> If you add dependency-information to drivers, you have two problems:
>
> - How do you get these information from the driver (remember, currently
> there is only one initial call, a initcall which might do almost anything)
>
> - These information might become outdated and you would have to change
> all drivers. E.g. if the name of a dependency (driver) changes it
> wouldn't be done with changing the dts (maybe plural), but you would
> have to change the source of all dependant drivers too.

And after having sorted my brain:

A driver depends on a binding (and its API), but not on explicit named 
other drivers. So trying it (again) on driver level is doomed to fail.

Alexander Holler
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