Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] ARM: dts: socfpga: fpga bridges bindings docs

[Pantelis Antoniou]

Hi Steffen,

> On Oct 27, 2014, at 20:00 , Steffen Trumtrar <s.trumtrar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 05:45:03PM +0200, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>> Hi Stefan,
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 17:32 , Steffen Trumtrar <s.trumtrar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 05:05:29PM +0200, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 17:01 , Mark Brown <broonie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 01:48:02PM +0200, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 02:51 , atull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> + - init-val         : 0 if driver should disable bridge at startup
>>>>>>> +                      1 if driver should enable bridge at startup
>>>>>>> +                      driver leaves bridge in current state if property not
>>>>>>> +		      specified.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Isnât init-val a boolean property? Itâs not named very well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's not boolean, it's tristate - turn on, turn off or don't touch.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I see. Even then âinit-valâ is cryptic. Iâd prefer two booleans,
>>>> enable-at-startup; disable-at-startup.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Along with the label, is kinda hard to defend as configuration in DT.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah...  presumably this decision would fall out of the users?
>>>> 
>>>> Well, itâs the user that should make the decision, but the driver should
>>>> pick it up. This works but itâs not very nice.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hm, convince me why this AXI bus is so special, that I even need an
>>> "init-val" property? Other buses don't have that.
>>> Why don't I add a property "init-val" to my SPI buses, so I can enable
>>> it in the DT and still have it in reset, just because....
>>> 
>>> The bridges on the SoCFPGA are buses, from the HPS to the FPGA. If I have
>>> written firmware to the FPGA and I have subnodes on that bus, I have to
>>> get it out of reset and probe everything. Normal procedure, no ?!
>>> 
>> 
>> Well, itâs not my speciality, but my understanding is that FPGAs take (considerable)
>> time to be programmed. If someone has already configured the âbusâ it is considered
>> a win to not reload the bitstream. I.e. if you boot with the bootloader having loaded
>> the bitstream already, you donât want to do it again.
>> 
>> Iâm afraid thereâs no such analogue with standard hardware busses like SPI, where
>> the bus setup time is instantaneous.
> 
> Ah, okay. I see why you got confused.
> The bridges are not in any way responsible for loading the FPGA nor will
> resetting them reset the bitstream.
> 
> The FPGA Manager, a different IP core, is responsible for that. And AFAIK
> it has a status bit, that tells you if the FPGA is programmed or not.
> Loading the bitstream is in the order of milliseconds.
> 
> So from the bridges point of view, when you probe it, you can ask the
> FPGA manager if is done, otherwise -EPROBE_DEFER and than go on and
> probe the subdevices.
> 
> 

Ohh, I see. Sorry for the confusion.

> If you are bored, take a look at
> http://www.altera.com/literature/hb/cyclone-v/cv_54004.pdf
> page 7-2. There you can see the hardware setup.
> 

Thanks. /me throws it at the pile of things to readâ


> Regards,
> Steffen
> 
> 
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Regards

â Pantelis

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