Re: [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles

From: Peter Zijlstra
Date: Tue Feb 17 2015 - 13:36:46 EST


On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 08:05:32AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > FWIW, we should probably update that table to include control
> > dependencies too; we didn't (formally) have those back then I think.
> >
> > The blob under SMP BARRIER PAIRING does not mention pairing with control
> > dependencies; and I'm rather sure I've done so.
>
> Yep, they should pair as well, though the pairing is limited.
> No transitivity, of course.
>
> So the straightforward approach requires eighteen bits per cell, though
> some of them are a bit, ummm, "unusual".

Right, I think the idea was to not mark with 'X' when very unusual,
otherwise you do indeed obtain the below 'trivial' matrix.

> Sixteen of these are given by
> Scenarios 0-15 in http://lwn.net/Articles/573436/, with the barrier on
> the side corresponding to the first column and the barrier on the top
> corresponding to the second column. The seventeenth bit says whether
> you get transitivity chaining after the top access, assuming that it
> happens later. The eighteenth bit says whether you get transitivity
> chaining before the side access, assuming that it happens earlier.
>
> The following is a rough first guess, filling in only the diagonal.
> Some of the entries are no doubt wrong, and getting them right requires
> something like 7*7*18 test cases, which will take some time. So, is
> something like this really helpful?


> | mb | wmb | rmb | rbd | acq | rel | ctl |
> -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> mb | 3ffff | X | X | X | X | X | X +
> -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> wmb | X | 01000 | X | X | X | X | X +
> -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> rmb | X | X | 00000 | X | X | X | X +
> -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> rbd | X | X | X | 00000 | X | X | X +
> -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> acq | X | X | X | X | 00020 | X | X +
> -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> rel | X | X | X | X | X | 0cc00 | X +
> -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> ctl | X | X | X | X | X | X | 00020 +
> -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+

So maybe make two tables; one with 'obvious' pairings, which would
include things like mb - {mb,rmb,wmb}; rmb-wmb; acq-rel; ctl-mb; etc.

That table is for people to quickly check 'easy'; like yes wmb-rbd makes
sense and rmb-rbd doesn't appear to make sense, I need more reading up.

After that do the 'funny' table, which will explain further possible
pairings in more detail, like the rmb-rbd pairing.

I'm not entirely sure we want to do the 7*7*18 state table, that's a lot
of work to exhaustively generate. We should be lazy and demand fill when
people come to us.
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