Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Add epoll round robin wakeup mode

From: Andy Lutomirski
Date: Tue Feb 17 2015 - 16:09:35 EST

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jason Baron <jbaron@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 02/17/2015 02:46 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jason Baron <jbaron@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> When we are sharing a wakeup source among multiple epoll fds, we end up with
>>> thundering herd wakeups, since there is currently no way to add to the
>>> wakeup source exclusively. This series introduces 2 new epoll flags,
>>> EPOLLEXCLUSIVE for adding to a wakeup source exclusively. And EPOLLROUNDROBIN
>>> which is to be used in conjunction to EPOLLEXCLUSIVE to evenly
>>> distribute the wakeups. This patch was originally motivated by a desire to
>>> improve wakeup balance and cpu usage for a listen socket() shared amongst
>>> multiple epoll fd sets.
>>> See: for previous test program and testing
>>> resutls.
>>> Epoll manpage text:
>>> Provides exclusive wakeups when attaching multiple epoll fds to a
>>> shared wakeup source. Must be specified with an EPOLL_CTL_ADD operation.
>>> Provides balancing for exclusive wakeups when attaching multiple epoll
>>> fds to a shared wakeup soruce. Depends on EPOLLEXCLUSIVE being set and
>>> must be specified with an EPOLL_CTL_ADD operation.
>>> Thanks,
>> What permissions do you need on the file descriptor to do this? This
>> will be the first case where a poll-like operation has side effects,
>> and that's rather weird IMO.
> So in the case where you have both non-exclusive and exclusive
> waiters, all of the non-exclusive waiters will continue to get woken
> up. However, I think you're getting at having multiple exclusive
> waiters and potentially 'starving' out other exclusive waiters.
> In general, I think wait queues are associated with a 'struct file',
> so I think unless you are sharing your fd table, this isn't an issue.
> However, there may be cases where this is not true? In which
> case, perhaps, we could limit this to CAP_SYS_ADMIN...

There's also SCM_RIGHTS, which can be used in conjunction with file
sealing and such.

In general, I feel like this patch series solves a problem that isn't
well understood and does it by adding a rather strange new mechanism.
Is there really a problem that can't be addressed by more normal epoll


> Thanks,
> -Jason

Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC
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