Re: [RFC 3/5] powerpc: atomic: implement atomic{,64}_{add,sub}_return_* variants
From: Will Deacon
Date: Tue Sep 01 2015 - 15:00:36 EST
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 04:39:21PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:16:02PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > Ah.. just read through the thread you mentioned, I might misunderstand
> > you, probably because I didn't understand RCpc well..
> >
> > You are saying that in a RELEASE we -might- switch from smp_lwsync() to
> > smp_mb() semantically, right? I guess this means we -might- switch from
> > RCpc to RCsc, right?
> >
> > If so, I think I'd better to wait until we have a conclusion for this.
>
> Yes, the difference between RCpc and RCsc is in the meaning of RELEASE +
> ACQUIRE. With RCsc that implies a full memory barrier, with RCpc it does
> not.
We've discussed this before, but for the sake of completeness, I don't
think we're fully RCsc either because we don't order the actual RELEASE
operation again a subsequent ACQUIRE operation:
P0
smp_store_release(&x, 1);
foo = smp_load_acquire(&y);
P1
smp_store_release(&y, 1);
bar = smp_load_acquire(&x);
We allow foo == bar == 0, which is prohibited by SC.
However, we *do* enforce ordering on any prior or subsequent accesses
for the code snippet above (the release and acquire combine to give a
full barrier), which makes these primitives well suited to things like
message passing.
Will
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