Re: ncpXXxh103 compensation values?

From: Guenter Roeck
Date: Wed Mar 30 2016 - 17:00:01 EST


Hi Maxime,

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:58:41PM +0200, Maxime Jayat wrote:
> I don't think it is wrong to use ncpXXxh103 instead of ncp15xh103,
> because the first number refers to the physical size of the thermistor
> and should not change its behavior. In fact the datasheet does the same
> kind of grouping.
>
> I was just wondering what was the reason for the discrepancy between the
> datasheet and your values.
> Indeed the datasheet I linked earlier, at page 15, gives you verbatim
> the content of this array and the result of your calculation does not
> match it.
> It is not _absurdly_ wrong but, at first sight, it seems like there is a
> 10 degrees difference at the extremes (but 10 kOhm at 25 C is correct).
>

Can the two of you sort this out and send me a fixup patch if necessary ?

Thanks,
Guenter

p.s.: Please don't top-post.

> Le 30/03/2016 17:09, Joseph McNally a écrit :
> > Hello Maxime,
> >
> > This data was calculated for a Murata NCP15XH103XXXXX.
> >
> > You have illustrated something to me with your question though. When I
> > uploaded this patch, I was following the format of the compensation
> > tables that are already present in the file. So i used "ncpXXxh103"
> > instead of "ncp15xh103". Also, it was my first patch submitted to the
> > Linux kernel. So I may have been over thinking some things! With some
> > hindsight, I see that the name is misleading. I'm going to have to
> > revisit this patch to make it more 'generic' for other thermistors, or
> > make it more specific for this particular thermistor.
> >
> > I hope that answers your questions. Thanks for pointing this out to me.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joseph
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Maxime Jayat <jayatmaxime@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:jayatmaxime@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Joseph,
> >
> > You recently added support for the ncpXXxh103 in
> > drivers/hwmon/ntc_thermistor.c with the following array of values:
> >
> > +static const struct ntc_compensation ncpXXxh103[] = {
> > + { .temp_c = -40, .ohm = 247565 },
> > + { .temp_c = -35, .ohm = 181742 },
> > + { .temp_c = -30, .ohm = 135128 },
> > + { .temp_c = -25, .ohm = 101678 },
> > + { .temp_c = -20, .ohm = 77373 },
> > + { .temp_c = -15, .ohm = 59504 },
> > + { .temp_c = -10, .ohm = 46222 },
> > + { .temp_c = -5, .ohm = 36244 },
> > + { .temp_c = 0, .ohm = 28674 },
> > + { .temp_c = 5, .ohm = 22878 },
> > + { .temp_c = 10, .ohm = 18399 },
> > + { .temp_c = 15, .ohm = 14910 },
> > + { .temp_c = 20, .ohm = 12169 },
> > + { .temp_c = 25, .ohm = 10000 },
> > + { .temp_c = 30, .ohm = 8271 },
> > + { .temp_c = 35, .ohm = 6883 },
> > + { .temp_c = 40, .ohm = 5762 },
> > + { .temp_c = 45, .ohm = 4851 },
> > + { .temp_c = 50, .ohm = 4105 },
> > + { .temp_c = 55, .ohm = 3492 },
> > + { .temp_c = 60, .ohm = 2985 },
> > + { .temp_c = 65, .ohm = 2563 },
> > + { .temp_c = 70, .ohm = 2211 },
> > + { .temp_c = 75, .ohm = 1915 },
> > + { .temp_c = 80, .ohm = 1666 },
> > + { .temp_c = 85, .ohm = 1454 },
> > + { .temp_c = 90, .ohm = 1275 },
> > + { .temp_c = 95, .ohm = 1121 },
> > + { .temp_c = 100, .ohm = 990 },
> > + { .temp_c = 105, .ohm = 876 },
> > + { .temp_c = 110, .ohm = 779 },
> > + { .temp_c = 115, .ohm = 694 },
> > + { .temp_c = 120, .ohm = 620 },
> > + { .temp_c = 125, .ohm = 556 },
> > +};
> > +
> >
> > Where are these taken from?
> > Unlike the other thermistors in the file, these values don't seem to
> > match anything in the Murata NTC Thermistor Datasheet.
> > See:
> > http://www.murata.com/~/media/webrenewal/support/library/catalog/products/thermistor/ntc/r44e.ashx
> >
> > --
> > Maxime Jayat
> >
> >
> --
> Maxime Jayat