Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Enhanced file stat system call

[Arnd Bergmann]

On Friday 13 May 2016 07:28:29 Richard Sharpe wrote:
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:09 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thursday 05 May 2016 21:00:18 Steve French wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Steve French <smfrench@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> I've discussed this with Deepa in the past, as she is driving the
> >> >> convertion of the inode timestamps to timespec64 now, and we will
> >> >> need a new version of utimensat for her work as well. I can see good
> >> >> reasons either way (allowing updates of btime or disallowing them).
> >> >
> >> It would help interop with Windows (and presumably Mac) if birth time can be
> >> updated
> >
> > Ok, thanks. That is certainly a good reason in favor.
> >
> > If nothing else comes up, I guess we can prepare a patch for a new
> > utimensat variant to do this and wait for more comments on that.

In the meantime I found this LWN article at https://lwn.net/Articles/397442/
Apparently there was a discussion about 6 years ago, without a real
conclusion.

> Isn't there also a strong case for a setattr call that allows us to
> atomically set a collection of attributes from userspace?
> 
> It would seem that network file systems (the clients) could use such features.

I had not heard of this before, but that is obviously another option.
Most of the attributes returned by xstat are read-only, but I guess
this would include uid, gid, {a,b,c,m}time and mode (but not size)
along with a 'valid' mask that decides what to set (as in notify_change),
right?

	Arnd