Re: Question on smp_mb__before_spinlock
From: Will Deacon
Date: Mon Sep 05 2016 - 06:10:23 EST
On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 11:37:53AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> So recently I've had two separate issues that touched upon
> smp_mb__before_spinlock().
>
>
> Since its inception, our understanding of ACQUIRE, esp. as applied to
> spinlocks, has changed somewhat. Also, I wonder if, with a simple
> change, we cannot make it provide more.
>
> The problem with the comment is that the STORE done by spin_lock isn't
> itself ordered by the ACQUIRE, and therefore a later LOAD can pass over
> it and cross with any prior STORE, rendering the default WMB
> insufficient (pointed out by Alan).
>
> Now, this is only really a problem on PowerPC and ARM64, the former of
> which already defined smp_mb__before_spinlock() as a smp_mb(), the
> latter does not, Will?
I just replied to that thread and, assuming I've groked the sched/core.c
usage correctly, then it does look like we need to make that an smp_mb()
with the current code.
> The second issue I wondered about is spinlock transitivity. All except
> powerpc have RCsc locks, and since Power already does a full mb, would
> it not make sense to put it _after_ the spin_lock(), which would provide
> the same guarantee, but also upgrades the section to RCsc.
>
> That would make all schedule() calls fully transitive against one
> another.
It would also match the way in which the arm64 atomic_*_return ops
are implemented, since full barrier semantics are required there.
> That is, would something like the below make sense?
Works for me, but I'll do a fix to smp_mb__before_spinlock anyway for
the stable tree.
The only slight annoyance is that, on arm64 anyway, a store-release
appearing in program order before the LOCK operation will be observed
in order, so if the write of CONDITION=1 in the try_to_wake_up case
used smp_store_release, we wouldn't need this barrier at all.
Will