Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] usb: dbc: early driver for xhci debug capability
From: Lu Baolu
Date: Thu Nov 10 2016 - 23:33:38 EST
Hi Peter,
On 11/10/2016 07:44 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 09:56:41AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>> This seems to be a common issue for all early printk drivers.
>> No. The other early printk drivers like serial do not have that problem as
>> they simply do:
>>
>> while (*buf) {
>> while (inb(UART) & TX_BUSY)
>> cpu_relax();
>> outb(*buf++, UART);
>> }
> Right, which is why actual UARTs rule. If only laptops still had pinouts
> for them life would be sooooo much better.
>
> Ideally the USB debug port would be a virtual UART and its interface as
> simple and robust.
>
>> The wait for the UART to become ready is independent of the context as it
>> solely depends on the hardware.
>>
>> As a result you can see the output from irq/nmi intermingled with the one
>> from thread context, but that's the only problem they have.
>>
>> The only thing you can do to make this work is to prevent printing in NMI
>> context:
>>
>> write()
>> {
>> if (in_nmi())
>> return;
>>
>> raw_spinlock_irqsave(&lock, flags);
>> ....
>>
>> That fully serializes the writes and just ignores NMI context printks. Not
>> optimal, but I fear that's all you can do.
> I would also suggest telling the hardware people they have designed
> something near the brink of useless. If you cannot do random exception
> context debugging (#DB, #NMI, #MCE etc..) then there's a whole host of
> problems that simply cannot be debugged.
>
> Also note that kdb runs from NMI context, so you'll not be able to
> support that either.
>
Things become complicated when it comes to USB debug port.
But it's still addressable.
At this time, we can do it like this.
write()
{
if (in_nmi() && raw_spin_is_locked(&lock))
return;
raw_spinlock_irqsave(&lock, flags);
....
This will filter some messages from NMI handler in case that
another thread is holding the spinlock. I have no idea about
how much chance could a debug user faces this. But it might
further be fixed with below enhancement.
write()
{
if (in_nmi() && raw_spin_is_locked(&lock)) {
produce_a_pending_item_in_ring();
return;
}
raw_spinlock_irqsave(&lock, flags);
while (!pending_item_ring_is_empty)
consume_a_pending_item_in_ring();
....
We can design the pending item ring in a producer-consumer
model. It's easy to avoid race between the producer and
consumer.
Best regards,
Lu Baolu