RE: [PATCH v8 00/15] Introduce support for Dell SMBIOS over WMI

From: Mario.Limonciello
Date: Tue Oct 17 2017 - 10:29:13 EST


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> Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/15] Introduce support for Dell SMBIOS over WMI
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> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 01:48:05PM +0000, Mario.Limonciello@xxxxxxxx wrote:
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> > > On Monday 16 October 2017 13:23:04 Mario.Limonciello@xxxxxxxx wrote:
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> > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/15] Introduce support for Dell SMBIOS over WMI
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi! Just a small idea, what about including example userspace
> > > > > application which would use this new API? I think such application can
> > > > > be useful for documentation purpose to see how this new API should be
> > > > > used. And in review process other people can point if there would be
> > > > > some problems with usage.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not know if it is requirement or not for introducing new kernel
> > > > > API, but still example code is very useful for developers when they
> > > > > would start to use this new API and correctly.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pali Rohár
> > > > > pali.rohar@xxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Pali,
> > > >
> > > > I've produced a small sample application available here:
> > > > https://github.com/superm1/smbios-wmi-poc
> > >
> > > Simple one-file example application. Great!
> > >
> > > Darren, Greg, Mario, I think it would be better to have this example
> > > application in tools/ or in Documentation/... What do you think?
> > >
> > > Looking for examples on random github repos is harder and less official
> > > as part of linux source tree.
> > >
> >
> > If others also agree, I'm fine with including it with the kernel.
> > Please advise where it should be located.
> >
> > It was originally a POC made just for my own testing of this API.
> > I will probably need to clean it up a little though for wider distribution
> > to the kernel so I would prefer to send it in a follow up patch if no other
> > feedback requiring changes to this series as is.
> >
> > One possible issue is that it currently uses glib. Is that OK?
>
> In my opinion, what is important is that there is an open-source
> userspace consumer of the interface. I don't think it needs to be in the
> kernel. If this was a more generic interface which could be tested on
> any hardware, then I think a selftests target would be sensible. As it
> is, this is a very specific use case, and a simple reference to the
> smbios-wmi-poc project URL in documentation someplace (or even in the
> dell-smbios driver comments) seems more than adequate to me.
>
To Pali's point I noticed stuff like this: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/tools/laptop/freefall/freefall.c
which shows how to use /dev/freefall.

I don't mind to switch my tool to drop glib and bring in kernel.
I'll plan to bring it in here in a separate patch:
tools/wmi/dell-smbios-example.c

kbuild test robot caught a few other missing includes for certain
situations, so I'll be making another change set for that anyway.

Thanks,