Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?

From: jdow
Date: Fri Apr 27 2018 - 04:50:08 EST

On 20180426 16:56, Finn Thain wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:

While non-native Linux filesystem support (e.g. affs/isofs/...) could be
handled by FUSE

Moving to FUSE is a great divide-and-conquer strategy for those who just
want the code to die and don't care about any of the data in that format.

If there is a maintainence burden that can be shared then it should be
shared -- until it can be established that there is no data of value in
that format.

moving RDB partition support to staging is not an option, as it is the
only partitioning scheme that Amigas can boot from.

Whether or not the original hardware is in use is mostly irrelevant.

As long as the old format is accessible using current hardware, the data
in that format remains accessible (to archivists, to curators, to your
decendents, etc).

If there are bugs in the RDB parser that people run into, they should be
fixed. If there are limitations in the RDB format on large disks, that's
still not a reason to move it to staging (hi msdos partitioning!).

This intrepid cyberunit is inclined to suggest that understanding the RDBs can go a long way towards defining if there is a bug somewhere and whether it is in the RDB description or its misuse.

There are some things RDBs can do that REALLY REALLY don't make sense until you run across the situation which called for it creation. There are two variables that suggest some blocks at the beginning and the end, respectively, of a partition are not accessible by the OS. I have used these facilities to "interleave" partitions and RDBs. I have built a disk which reserved about 128 512 byte blocks for RDBs plus filesystem code (which probably should be abandoned) which embedded the RDBs describing the partition within the partition. Then I reserved space at the end of the partition and embedded a second partition in that space. As absurd as it sounds this had at one time a decent use case. Disk space was an expensive premium in those days so wasting space to get nice integer numbers in the disk description, which was phony for a hard disk in any case, we allowed any numbers and if that went past the end of the disk we reserved the necessary space so that it would never be used. The space at the beginning of a partition was needed in any case because a one block partition signature needed space at the start of the partition. It held the filesystem's signature, OFS, AFS, SFS, etc.

There is also a good reason for allowing the anchor for the RDBs to start in any of the first 16 blocks with a recommendation not to use block 0 as other FSs used that. And we wanted to accommodate at least two different partition description technologies to work on the disk. My code always placed the RDBs at block 3.

I hope passing along some of this history will mitigate some fo the feelings that RDBs are inherently flawed or full of bugs or whatnot. (Full pf security holes is another story. DriveInit code and filesystem code have worried me from day one.)

{^_^} Joanne