Re: [PATCH] ksys_mount: check for permissions before resource allocation

From: Al Viro
Date: Tue Jun 05 2018 - 07:53:46 EST


On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 03:35:55PM +0400, Ilya Matveychikov wrote:
>
> > On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Al Viro <viro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 6:00 AM, Ilya Matveychikov <matvejchikov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Early check for mount permissions prevents possible allocation of 3
> >>> pages from kmalloc() pool by unpriveledged user which can be used for
> >>> spraying the kernel heap.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but there are arseloads of unpriveleged syscalls that do the same,
> > starting with read() from procfs files. So what the hell does it buy?
>
> Means that if all do the same shit no reason to fix it? Sounds weird...

Fix *what*? You do realize that there's no permission checks to stop e.g.
stat(2) from copying the pathname in, right? With user-supplied contents,
even...

If you depend upon preventing kmalloc'ed temporary allocations filled
with user-supplied data, you are screwed, plain and simple. It really can't
be prevented, in a lot of ways that are much less exotic than mount(2).
Most of syscall arguments are copied in, before we get any permission
checks. It does happen and it will happen - examining them while they are
still in userland is a nightmare in a lot of respects, starting with
security.