Re: [PATCH V5] powercap/drivers/idle_injection: Add an idle injection framework

From: Peter Zijlstra
Date: Thu Jun 07 2018 - 05:32:14 EST


On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 11:09:13AM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 07/06/2018 10:49, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > On 07-06-18, 10:46, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> >> Yes, correct.
> >>
> >> But if we don't care about who wins to store to value, is there a risk
> >> of scramble variable if we just assign a value ?
> >
> > Normally no, as the compiler wouldn't screw it up badly. But there is no rule
> > which stops the compiler from doing this:
> >
> > idle_duration_ms = 5;
> > idle_duration_ms = -5;
> > idle_duration_ms = 0;
> > idle_duration_ms = <real-value-we-want-to-write>;
> >
> > So we *must* use READ/WRITE_ONCE() to make sure garbage values aren't seen by
> > readers.
>
> Ok understood. Why would a compiler do this kind of things ?

I think the above can happen when the compiler uses the variable as a
scratch pad -- very rare I would say.

In general a compiler needs to proof that doing this makes no observable
difference ("as-if" rule). And since it is a regular variable it can
assume data-race-free and do the above (or something like that). Because
if there is a data-race it is UB and it can still do whatever it
pleases.

And here I think the point is that regular variables are considered only
in the context of a single linear execution context. Locks are assumed
to bound observability.

And here the "volatile" and "_atomic" type specifiers again tell the
compiler something 'special' is going on and you should not muck with
things.