On Fri 03-08-18 14:01:58, Yang Shi wrote:
VM_HUGETLB is quite spread. Especially for DB workloads.
On 8/3/18 2:07 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Fri 27-07-18 02:10:14, Yang Shi wrote:Do you mean just call do_munmap()? It sounds ok. Although we may waste some
When running some mmap/munmap scalability tests with large memory (i.e.Well, I think it would be safer to simply fallback to the current
300GB), the below hung task issue may happen occasionally.INFO: task ps:14018 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
Tainted: G E 4.9.79-009.ali3000.alios7.x86_64 #1
"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this
message.
ps D 0 14018 1 0x00000004
ffff885582f84000 ffff885e8682f000 ffff880972943000 ffff885ebf499bc0
ffff8828ee120000 ffffc900349bfca8 ffffffff817154d0 0000000000000040
00ffffff812f872a ffff885ebf499bc0 024000d000948300 ffff880972943000
Call Trace:
[<ffffffff817154d0>] ? __schedule+0x250/0x730
[<ffffffff817159e6>] schedule+0x36/0x80
[<ffffffff81718560>] rwsem_down_read_failed+0xf0/0x150
[<ffffffff81390a28>] call_rwsem_down_read_failed+0x18/0x30
[<ffffffff81717db0>] down_read+0x20/0x40
[<ffffffff812b9439>] proc_pid_cmdline_read+0xd9/0x4e0
[<ffffffff81253c95>] ? do_filp_open+0xa5/0x100
[<ffffffff81241d87>] __vfs_read+0x37/0x150
[<ffffffff812f824b>] ? security_file_permission+0x9b/0xc0
[<ffffffff81242266>] vfs_read+0x96/0x130
[<ffffffff812437b5>] SyS_read+0x55/0xc0
[<ffffffff8171a6da>] entry_SYSCALL_64_fastpath+0x1a/0xc5
It is because munmap holds mmap_sem exclusively from very beginning to
all the way down to the end, and doesn't release it in the middle. When
unmapping large mapping, it may take long time (take ~18 seconds to
unmap 320GB mapping with every single page mapped on an idle machine).
Zapping pages is the most time consuming part, according to the
suggestion from Michal Hocko [1], zapping pages can be done with holding
read mmap_sem, like what MADV_DONTNEED does. Then re-acquire write
mmap_sem to cleanup vmas.
But, some part may need write mmap_sem, for example, vma splitting. So,
the design is as follows:
acquire write mmap_sem
lookup vmas (find and split vmas)
detach vmas
deal with special mappings
downgrade_write
zap pages
free page tables
release mmap_sem
The vm events with read mmap_sem may come in during page zapping, but
since vmas have been detached before, they, i.e. page fault, gup, etc,
will not be able to find valid vma, then just return SIGSEGV or -EFAULT
as expected.
If the vma has VM_LOCKED | VM_HUGETLB | VM_PFNMAP or uprobe, they are
considered as special mappings. They will be dealt with before zapping
pages with write mmap_sem held. Basically, just update vm_flags.
implementation with these mappings and deal with them on top. This would
make potential issues easier to bisect and partial reverts as well.
cycles to repeat what has done, it sounds not too bad since those special
mappings should be not very common.
I really didn't get to think about a better way myself but I stronglyWe need a way to tell unmap_region() that it is called in a kind of specialAnd, since they are also manipulated by unmap_single_vma() which isskip parameters are usually ugly and lead to more mess later on. Can we
called by unmap_vma() with read mmap_sem held in this case, to
prevent from updating vm_flags in read critical section, a new
parameter, called "skip_flags" is added to unmap_region(), unmap_vmas()
and unmap_single_vma(). If it is true, then just skip unmap those
special mappings. Currently, the only place which pass true to this
parameter is us.
do without them?
context which updating vm_flags is not allowed. I didn't think of a better
way.
We could add a new API to do what unmap_region() does without updating
vm_flags, but we would have to duplicate some code.
suspect we can do without special hacks here. Is updating flags under
read lock a real problem? Assuming that special mappings are not really
considered at this stage.
Please make it explicit in the changelog.Yes, the detaching approach.With this approach we don't have to re-acquire mmap_sem again to cleanBy with this approach you mean detaching right?
up vmas to avoid race window which might get the address space changed.
Please also be explicit.Yes. And, there is not lock take/retake cost since we don't release it.And, since the lock acquire/release cost is managed to the minimum andI guess you mean to say that lock downgrade approach doesn't lead to
almost as same as before, the optimization could be extended to any size
of mapping without incurring significant penalty to small mappings.
regressions because the overal time mmap_sem is taken is not longer?
Do call them out. Maybe even add a comment in the code so that peopleYes, the statement here sounds ambiguous. There are definitely someFor the time being, just do this in munmap syscall path. OtherYou have used this argument previously and several people have asked.
vm_munmap() or do_munmap() call sites (i.e mmap, mremap, etc) remain
intact for stability reason.
I think it is just wrong. Either the concept is safe and all callers can
use it or it is not and then those subtle differences should be called
out. Your previous response was that you simply haven't tested other
paths. Well, that is not an argument, I am afraid. The whole thing
should be done at a proper layer. If there are some difficulties to
achieve that for all callers then OK just be explicit about that. I can
imagine some callers really require the exclusive look when munmap
returns for example.
difficulties to achieve that in mmap and mremap. Since they acquire write
mmap_sem at the very beginning, then do their stuff, which may call
do_munmap if overlapped address space has to be changed.
who would like those other paths know what they need to look at.
But, the optimized do_munmap would like to be called without mmap_sem heldThat depends on usecases very much. mremap might be called on very large
so that we can do the optimization. So, if we want to do the similar
optimization for mmap/mremap path, I'm afraid we would have to redesign
them.
I assumes munmap itself is the main source of the latency issue. mmap/mremap
might hit the latency problem if they are trying to map or remap a huge
overlapped address space, but it should be rare. So, I leave them untouched.
areas as well. But let's go in smaller steps and build on top...