Re: [PATCH v5 01/13] taint: Introduce a new taint flag (insecure)

From: Randy Dunlap
Date: Tue Feb 05 2019 - 17:46:30 EST


On 2/5/19 1:21 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 18:42:29 -0800 Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:54 PM Chang S. Bae <chang.seok.bae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> For testing (or root-only) purposes, the new flag will serve to tag the
>>> kernel taint accurately.
>>>
>>> When adding a new feature support, patches need to be incrementally
>>> applied and tested with temporal parameters. Currently, there is no flag
>>> for this usage.
>>
>> I think this should be reviewed by someone like akpm. akpm, for
>> background, this is part of an x86 patch series. If only part of the
>> series is applied, the kernel will be blatantly insecure (but still
>> functional and useful for testing and bisection), and this taint flag
>> will be set if this kernel is booted. With the whole series applied,
>> there are no users of the taint flag in the kernel.
>>
>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>
> What does "temporal parameters" mean? A complete description of this
> testing process would help.
>
> I sounds a bit strange. You mean it assumes that people will partially
> apply the series to test its functionality? That would be inconvenient.

Ack. I don't think we need to (or should) worry about that kind of
muckup.

> - Can the new and now-unused taint flag be removed again at
> end-of-series?
>
> - It would be a lot more convenient if we had some means of testing
> after the whole series is applied, on a permanent basis - some
> debugfs flag, perhaps?
>


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~Randy