Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/10] Mount, FS, Block and Keyrings notifications [ver #3]

[Andy Lutomirski]

> On Jun 6, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Casey Schaufler <casey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/6/2019 10:11 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:43 AM Casey Schaufler <casey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> I don't agree. That is, I don't believe it is sufficient.
>>> There is no guarantee that being able to set a watch on an
>>> object implies that every process that can trigger the event
>>> can send it to you.
>>> 
>>>        Watcher has Smack label W
>>>        Triggerer has Smack label T
>>>        Watched object has Smack label O
>>> 
>>>        Relevant Smack rules are
>>> 
>>>        W O rw
>>>        T O rw
>>> 
>>> The watcher will be able to set the watch,
>>> the triggerer will be able to trigger the event,
>>> but there is nothing that would allow the watcher
>>> to receive the event. This is not a case of watcher
>>> reading the watched object, as the event is delivered
>>> without any action by watcher.
>> I think this is an example of a bogus policy that should not be
>> supported by the kernel.
> 
> At this point it's pretty hard for me to care much what
> you think. You don't seem to have any insight into the
> implications of the features you're advocating, or their
> potential consequences.
> 
> 

Can you try to spell it out, then?  A mostly or fully worked out example might help.

As Stephen said, it looks like you are considering cases where there is already a full communication channel between two processes, and youâre concerned that this new mechanism might add a side channel too.  If this is wrong, can you explain how?