Re: [RFC PATCH 00/22] thunderbolt: Add support for USB4
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman
Date: Tue Oct 01 2019 - 08:49:59 EST
On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 02:38:08PM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm sending this as RFC because the series is still missing important
> features such as power management so not ready for merging. However, I
> think it is good to get any early feedback from the community. We are
> working to add support for the missing features.
>
> USB4 is the public specification of Thunderbolt 3 protocol and can be
> downloaded here:
>
> https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB4%20Specification_1.zip
>
> USB4 is about tunneling different protocols over a single cable (in the
> same way as Thunderbolt). The current USB4 spec supports PCIe, Display Port
> and USB 3.x, and also software based protocols such as networking between
> domains (hosts).
>
> So far PCs have been using firmware based Connection Manager and Apple
> systems have been using software based one. A Connection Manager is the
> entity that handles creation of different tunnel types through the USB4
> (and Thunderbolt) fabric. With USB4 the plan is to have software based
> Connection Manager everywhere but some early systems will also support
> firmware to allow OS downgrade for example.
>
> Current Linux Thunderbolt driver supports both "modes" and can detect which
> one to use dynamically.
>
> This series first adds support for Thunderbolt 3 devices to the software
> connection manager and then extends that to support USB4 compliant hosts
> and devices (this applies to both firmware and software based connection
> managers). With this series the following features are supported also for
> USB4 compliant devices:
>
> - PCIe tunneling
> - Display Port tunneling
> - USB 3.x tunneling
> - P2P networking (implemented in drivers/net/thunderbolt.c)
> - Host and device NVM firmware upgrade
>
> We also add two new sysfs attributes under each device that expose link
> speed and width to userspace. The rest of the userspace ABI stays the same.
>
> I'm including Linux USB folks as well because USB4 is officially coming
> from USB-IF which puts us on same boat now.
>
> While I changed the user visible Kconfig string to mention "USB4" (the
> Kconfig option is still CONFIG_THUNDERBOLT), I'm wondering whether we
> should move the whole Thunderbolt driver under drivers/usb/thunderbolt as
> well?
Looks "interesting", nice work!
I stopped at patch "Add initial support for USB4" as I don't think we
want to add USB4 code to a system that we know does not have it, right?
Everything up to then is just "normal" thunderbolt, and with the
exception of a few minor comments, all look fine to me.
I didn't actually read the USB4 patch just yet, as I figured we needed
to argue about that some more :)
thanks,
greg k-h