Re: [PATCH] Revert kheaders feature
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman
Date: Thu Feb 06 2020 - 02:04:52 EST
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:53:15PM -0800, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 1:48 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:35:56PM -0800, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 1:33 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > > <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > > > > like the BTF approach is significantly better and said users are
> > > > > > hopefully moving forward to it quickly, and if they can't move
> > > > > > forward, then they're likely also not going to move forward to newer
> > > > > > kernels either?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think BCC runs on a lot of upstream machines. I think the migration
> > > > > strategy is a matter of opinion, one way is to take it out and cause some
> > > > > pain in the hope that users/tools will migrate soon (while probably carrying
> > > > > the reverted patches out of tree). Another is to migrate the tools first and
> > > > > then take it out (which has its own disadvantages such as introducing even
> > > > > more users of it while it is still upstream).
> > > >
> > > > Do we "know" what tools today require this, and what needs to be done to
> > > > "fix" them? If we don't know that, then there's no way to drop this,
> > > > pretty much ever :(
> > >
> > > Is there a real reason to drop it or a problem dropping this solves though?
> >
> > Olof had some reasons, but as we were drinking at the time when it came
> > up last night, I can't really remember them specifically. Hopefully he
> > does :)
> > But that didn't answer my question of "who is still using this"? I was
> > hoping we actually knew this given it was created for specific users.
>
> I think I mentioned this in a previous thread of this email. Several
> BCC tools are using it - see for example the criticalstat BCC tool
> which includes linux/sched.h :
> https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/criticalstat.py#L73
> , or filetop BCC tool which uses struct dentry :
> https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/filetop.py#L101
>
> These would break without kernel headers either on the host or via
> CONFIG_IKHEADERS.
Ah, ok, then this can't work just yet. If those get fixed up, then we
can do this.
thanks for the info, nevermind about this patch :(
greg k-h