Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] ima: uncompressed module appraisal support

[Eric Snowberg]

> On Feb 8, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2020-02-07 at 14:38 -0700, Eric Snowberg wrote:
>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 2020-02-07 at 11:45 -0700, Eric Snowberg wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 2020-02-07 at 10:49 -0700, Eric Snowberg wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 10:40 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> $ insmod ./foo.ko
>>>>>>>> insmod: ERROR: could not insert module ./foo.ko: Permission denied
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> last entry from audit log:
>>>>>>>> type=INTEGRITY_DATA msg=audit(1581089373.076:83): pid=2874 uid=0
>>>>>>>> auid=0 ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-
>>>>>>>> s0:c0.c1023 op=appraise_data cause=invalid-signature comm="insmod"
>>>>>>>> name="/root/keys/modules/foo.ko" dev="dm-0" ino=10918365
>>>>>>>> res=0^]UID="root" AUID=âroot"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is because modsig_verify() will be called from within
>>>>>>>> ima_appraise_measurement(), 
>>>>>>>> since try_modsig is true.  Then modsig_verify() will return
>>>>>>>> INTEGRITY_FAIL.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why is it an "invalid signature"?  For that you need to look at the
>>>>>>> kernel messages.  Most likely it can't find the public key on the .ima
>>>>>>> keyring to verify the signature.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is invalid because the module has not been ima signed. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> With the IMA policy rule "appraise func=MODULE_CHECK
>>>>> appraise_type=imasig|modsig", IMA first tries to verify the IMA
>>>>> signature stored as an xattr and on failure then attempts to verify
>>>>> the appended signatures.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The audit message above indicates that there was a signature, but the
>>>>> signature validation failed.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I do have  CONFIG_IMA_APPRAISE_MODSIG enabled.  I believe the audit message above 
>>>> is coming from modsig_verify in security/integrity/ima/ima_appraise.c.
>>> 
>>> Right, and it's calling:
>>> 
>>> 	rc = integrity_modsig_verify(INTEGRITY_KEYRING_IMA, modsig);
>>> 
>>> It's failing because it is trying to find the public key on the .ima
>>> keyring.  Make sure that the public needed to validate the kernel
>>> module is on the IMA keyring (eg. keyctl show %keyring:.ima).
>>> 
>> 
>> I know that will validate the module properly, but that is not what Iâm 
>> trying to solve here. I thought the point of adding â|modsigâ to the
>> ima policy was to tell ima it can either validate against an ima keyring OR 
>> default back to the kernel keyring.  This is what happens with the compressed
>> module.  There isnât anything in the ima keyring to validate the compressed
>> modules and it loads when I add â|modsigâ.
> 
> "modsig" has nothing to do with keyrings.  The term "modsig" is
> juxtaposed to "imasig".  "modsig" refers to kernel module appended
> signature. 

Ok, understood, âmodsigâ refers to strictly kernel module appended signatures
without regard to the keyring that verifies it.  Since there are inconsistencies
here, would you consider something like my first patch?  It will verify an 
uncompressed kernel module containing an appended signature  when the public key
is contained within the kernel keyring instead of the ima keyring.  Why force a 
person to add the same keys into the ima keyring for validation?  Especially when
the kernel keyring is now used to verify appended signatures in the compressed
modules.

> 
>> 
>> The use case Iâm trying to solve is when someone boots with ima_policy=secure_boot.
> 
> As the secure_boot policy rules are replaced once a custom policy is
> loaded, the "secure_boot" policy should probably be deprecated.  I
> highly recommend using the more recent build time and architecture
> specific run time policy rules, which persist after loading a custom
> policy. 

I found the secure_boot policy useful, until a custom policy got loaded.  But if it
is targeted to be deprecated, Iâll drop my second patch.  I will look at the run
time policy rules instead. Thanks.