Sorry didn't understood clearly. Are you asking with 30s timeout, whats the data timeout counter used?
On 3/4/20 9:51 AM, Sowjanya Komatineni wrote:
Hi Ulf,
On 3/4/20 9:26 AM, Sowjanya Komatineni wrote:
Sorry for confusion. Please ignore above on response. it is using SHORT response for R1. So SW poll should be working.
On 3/4/20 9:21 AM, Sowjanya Komatineni wrote:
On 3/4/20 8:56 AM, Sowjanya Komatineni wrote:
*[Correction] Based on our host design, When CMD6 is issued with R1 type as we program it as NO_RESPONSE and with this command complete interrupt happens right at end bit of command and there will be no transfer complete interrupt.
On 3/4/20 2:18 AM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
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So, from my side, me and Anders Roxell, have been collaborating on[...]
testing the behaviour on a TI Beagleboard x15 (remotely with limited
debug options), which is using the sdhci-omap variant. I am trying to
get hold of an Nvidia jetson-TX2, but not found one yet. These are the
conclusions from the observed behaviour on the Beagleboard for the
CMD6 cache flush command.
First, the reported host->max_busy_timeout is 2581 (ms) for the
sdhci-omap driver in this configuration.
1. As we all know by now, the cache flush command (CMD6) fails with
-110 currently. This is when MMC_CACHE_FLUSH_TIMEOUT_MS is set to 30 *
1000 (30s), which means __mmc_switch() drops the MMC_RSP_BUSY flag
from the command.
2. Changing the MMC_CACHE_FLUSH_TIMEOUT_MS to 2000 (2s), means that
the MMC_RSP_BUSY flag becomes set by __mmc_switch, because of the
timeout_ms parameter is less than max_busy_timeout (2000 < 2581).
Then everything works fine.
3. Updating the code to again use 30s as the
MMC_CACHE_FLUSH_TIMEOUT_MS, but instead forcing the MMC_RSP_BUSY to be
set, even when the timeout_ms becomes greater than max_busy_timeout.
This also works fine.
Clearly this indicates a problem that I think needs to be addressed in
the sdhci driver. However, of course I can revert the three discussed
patches to fix the problem, but that would only hide the issues and I
am sure we would then get back to this issue, sooner or later.
To fix the problem in the sdhci driver, I would appreciate if someone
from TI and Nvidia can step in to help, as I don't have the HW on my
desk.
Comments or other ideas of how to move forward?
Hi Ulf,Okay, great.
I could repro during suspend on Jetson TX1/TX2 as when it does mmc flush cache.
If I understand correctly, because of the timeout now set to 30s,
Timeout I see is for switch status CMD13 after sending CMD6 as device side CMD6 is still inflight while host sends CMD13 as we are using R1 response type with timeout_ms changes to 30s.
Earlier we used timeout_ms of 0 for CMD6 flush cache, and with it uses R1B response type and host will wait for busy state followed by response from device for CMD6 and then data lines go High.
Now with timeout_ms changed to 30s, we use R1 response and SW waits for busy by checking for DAT0 line to go High.
MMC_RSP_BUSY becomes disabled in __mmc_switch() for your case in
sdhci-tegra as well?
Yes
In other words, mmc_poll_for_busy() is being called, which in your
case means the ->card_busy() host ops (set to sdhci_card_busy() in
your case) will be invoked to wait for the card to stop signal busy on
DAT0.
This indicates to me, that the ->card_busy() ops returns zero to
inform that the card is *not* busy, even if the card actually signals
busy? Is that correct?
So, yes, using R1 instead of R1B triggers a different behaviour, but
With R1B type, host design after sending command at end of completion after end bit waits for 2 cycles for data line to go low (busy state from device) and waits for response cycles after which data lines will go back high and then we issue switch status CMD13.
With R1 type, host after sending command and at end of completion after end bit, DATA lines will go high immediately as its R1 type and switch status CMD13 gets issued but by this time it looks like CMD6 on device side is still in flight for sending status and data.
according to the eMMC spec it's perfectly allowed to issue a CMD13
even if the card signals busy on DAT0. The CMD13 is not using the DATA
lines, so this should work.
If I understand correctly, your driver (and controller?) has issues
with coping with this scenario. Is it something that can be fixed?
Right, as stated above, isn't sdhci_card_busy() working for your case?
30s timeout is the wait time for data0 line to go high and mmc_busy_status will return success right away with R1 response type and SW sends switch status CMD13 but during that time on device side looks like still processing CMD6 as we are not waiting for enough time when we use R1 response type.
Can we fix it?
sdhci_card_busy() returned 0 indicating its not busy.
Based on our host design, When CMD6 is issued with R1 type, we program it as NO_RESPONSE and with this command complete interrupt happens right at end bit of command and there will be no transfer complete interrupt.
Sorry to correct wordings, I meant sdhci driver programs response type as NO_RESPONSE for CMD6.
When CMD6 is issued with R1 type and as NO_RESPONSE, Based on our host design command complete interrupt happens right at end bit of command and there will be no transfer complete interrupt.
Will get back on checking on host design side internally.
Verified internally regarding the busy state over DATA0 Our host design has known minor bug where command complete interrupt is asserted after waiting for busy cycles from device.So because of this polling for card_busy() returns 0 (DAT0 line High) immediately as waiting for busy is taken care during command complete interrupt in host design. This behavior is same for R1 and R1B.
When CMD6 is issued with R1B type, we program is as R1B RESP_SHORT and with this command complete is end bit of device resp and transfer complete interrupt will be when DAT0 LOW -> HIGH.
Regardless of R1/R1B, device side CMD6 will always have busy state on D0 and response on CMD lines.
There will be 2 clock cycles period after sending CMD6 for device to send busy state on data0.
In case of R1 type, after sending command DAT will stay high and looks like we are polling for busy early before busy state has started and sending CMD13 while device is busy and sending response on CMD line is causing timeout.
Probably with this specific case of CMD6 with R1 type, to wait for card busy we should poll for DAT0 to go Low first and then to go High??
I fully agree that R1B is preferable, but it's not against the spec to
Actually we always use R1B with CMD6 as per spec.
send CMD13 to poll for busy.
Moreover, we need to cope with the scenario when the host has
specified a maximum timeout that isn't sufficiently long enough for
the requested operation. Do you have another proposal for how to
manage this, but disabling MMC_RSP_BUSY?
Let's assume you driver would get a R1B for the CMD6 (we force it),
then what timeout would the driver be using if we would set
cmd.busy_timeout to 30ms?
Kind regards
Uffe