Re: [DISCUSSION PATCH 00/41] random: possible ways towards NIST SP800-90B compliance

[Randy Dunlap]

On 10/2/20 8:39 AM, Van Leeuwen, Pascal wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 5:13 PM
>> To: Van Leeuwen, Pascal <pvanleeuwen@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION PATCH 00/41] random: possible ways towards NIST SP800-90B compliance
>>
>> <<< External Email >>>
>> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:34:44PM +0000, Van Leeuwen, Pascal wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 4:04 PM
>>>> To: Van Leeuwen, Pascal <pvanleeuwen@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc: Torsten Duwe <duwe@xxxxxx>; Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@xxxxxxx>; linux-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Nicolai Stange
>>>> <nstange@xxxxxxx>; LKML <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx>; Eric W. Biederman
>>>> <ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Alexander E. Patrakov <patrakov@xxxxxxxxx>; Ahmed S. Darwish <darwish.07@xxxxxxxxx>; Willy
>>>> Tarreau <w@xxxxxx>; Matthew Garrett <mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Vito Caputo <vcaputo@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Andreas Dilger
>>>> <adilger.kernel@xxxxxxxxx>; Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx>; Ray Strode <rstrode@xxxxxxxxxx>; William Jon McCann
>> <mccann@xxxxxxx>;
>>>> zhangjs <zachary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx>; Florian Weimer <fweimer@xxxxxxxxxx>; Lennart
>>>> Poettering <mzxreary@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Peter Matthias <matthias.peter@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Marcelo Henrique Cerri
>>>> <marcelo.cerri@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Neil Horman <nhorman@xxxxxxxxxx>; Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Julia Lawall
>>>> <julia.lawall@xxxxxxxx>; Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@xxxxxxxxxx>; Andy Lavr <andy.lavr@xxxxxxxxx>; Eric Biggers
>>>> <ebiggers@xxxxxxxxxx>; Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@xxxxxxxxx>; Stephan Müller <smueller@xxxxxxxxxx>; Petr Tesarik
>>>> <ptesarik@xxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION PATCH 00/41] random: possible ways towards NIST SP800-90B compliance
>>>>
>>>> <<< External Email >>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 01:35:18PM +0000, Van Leeuwen, Pascal wrote:
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>>>> As per my legal department requests, this is now ignored and deleted on
>>>> my system...
>>>>
>>>> Hint, it's not a valid footer for public mailing lists...
>>>>
>>>> greg k-h
>>> It's automatically added by our company mail server ... not something I can control at all :-(
>>
>> Then your company can not contribute in Linux kernel development, as
>> this is obviously not allowed by such a footer.
>>
> Interesting, this has never been raised as a problem until today ...
> Going back through my mail archive, it looks like they started automatically adding that some
> 3 months ago. Not that they informed anyone about that, it just silently happened.
> 
>> Please work with your IT and legal department to fix this.
>>
> Eh ... Greg ... that's not how that works in the real world. In the real world, legal and IT lay
> down the law and you just comply with that (or hack your way around it, if you can ;-).

That's how it worked at $big_companies that I have worked at.

If it's a company/business requirement that you do Linux kernel development work, (is it?)
then they should make that possible on internal systems or give you access to
external email server(s).

> I'm already fighting the good fight trying to keep control of my development machines
> because IT would just love to get rid of those (since not under IT control .... oh dear ...)
> And obviously, you cannot do kernel development on a machine without root access.
> It's annoying enough already to require IT support to provide explicit permission to open
> the task manager on my own company laptop ... grmbl.
> 
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> greg k-h
> 
> Regards,
> Pascal van Leeuwen
> Silicon IP Architect Multi-Protocol Engines, Rambus Security
> Rambus ROTW Holding BV
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> 
> Note: The Inside Secure/Verimatrix Silicon IP team was recently acquired by Rambus.
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> 
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~Randy