RE: [PATCH 1/5] ARM: configs: drop unused BACKLIGHT_GENERIC option

[ZHIZHIKIN Andrey]

Hello Arnd,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 4:50 PM
> To: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@xxxxxxx>; ZHIZHIKIN Andrey
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> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] ARM: configs: drop unused BACKLIGHT_GENERIC
> option
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 4:41 PM Alexandre Belloni
> <alexandre.belloni@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On 01/12/2020 14:40:53+0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 07:50:25PM +0000, ZHIZHIKIN Andrey wrote:
> > > > From Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> > > I tried to convince them before, it didn't work. I guess they don't
> > > like to be spammed ;).
> >
> > The first rule of arm-soc is: you do not talk about arm@ and soc@
> 
> I don't mind having the addresses documented better, but it needs to be
> done in a way that avoids having any patch for arch/arm*/boot/dts and
> arch/arm/*/configs Cc:d to soc@xxxxxxxxxx.
> 
> If anyone has suggestions for how to do that, let me know.

Just as a proposal:
Maybe those addresses should at least be included in the Documentation ("Select the recipients for your patch" section of "Submitting patches"), much like stable@ is. Those who get themselves familiarized with it - would get an idea about which list they would need to include in Cc: for such changes.

That should IMHO partially reduce the traffic on the list since it would not pop-up in the output of get_maintainer.pl, but would at least be documented so contributors can follow the process.

> 
> > > Or rather, SoC-specific patches, even to defconfig, should go
> > > through the specific SoC maintainers. However, there are occasional
> > > defconfig patches which are more generic or affecting multiple SoCs.
> > > I just ignore them as the arm64 defconfig is usually handled by the
> > > arm-soc folk (when I need a defconfig change, I go for
> > > arch/arm64/Kconfig directly ;)).
> >
> > IIRC, the plan was indeed to get defconfig changes through the
> > platform sub-trees. It is also supposed to be how multi_v5 and
> > multi_v7 are handled and they will take care of the merge.
> 
> For cross-platform changes like this one, I'm definitely happy to pick up the
> patch directly from soc@xxxxxxxxxx, or from mailing list if I know about it.

Should I collect all Ack's and re-send this series including the list "nobody talks about" :), or the series can be picked up as-is?

Your advice would be really welcomed here!

> 
> We usually do the merges for the soc tree in batches and rely on patchwork
> to keep track of what I'm missing, so if Olof and I are just on Cc to a mail, we
> might have forgotten about it by the time we do the next merges.
> 
>       Arnd

Regards,
Andrey