Re: [LSFMMBPF 2021] A status update

[Hannes Reinecke]

On 12/15/20 1:23 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 12-12-20 17:29:57, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:48:53AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > > We on the program committee hope everybody has been able to stay safe and
> > > healthy during this challenging time, and look forward to being able to see
> > > all of you in person again when it is safe.
> > >
> > > The current plans for LSFMMBPF 2021 are to schedule an in person conference
> > > in H2 (after June) of 2021.  The tentative plan is to use the same hotel
> > > that we had planned to use for 2020, as we still have contracts with them.
> > > However clearly that is not set in stone.  The Linux Foundation has done a
> > > wonderful job of working with us to formulate a plan and figure out the
> > > logistics that will work the best for everybody, I really can't thank them
> > > enough for their help.
> >
> > Thank you all for doing your best in the face of this disruption.  I
> > really appreciate all the work you're putting in, and I can't wait to
> > see you all again in person.
> >
> > I hosted a Zoom call yesterday on the topic of Page Folios, and uploaded
> > the video.
>
> Thanks for organizing this. I couldn't attent directly but I have
> watched the video. I think this was a useful meeting.
>
> > There was interest expressed in the call on doing a follow-up
> > call on the topic of GUP (get_user_pages and friends).  It would probably
> > also be good to have meetings on other topics.
>
> I hope I will have time to join this one.
>
> > I don't want this to be seen in any way as taking away from LSFMMBPF.
> > I see Zoom calls as an interim solution to not having face-to-face
> > meetings.
>
> Agreed!
>
> > I'd like to solicit feedback from this group on:
> >
> >   - Time of day.  There is no good time that suits everyone around
> >     the world.  With developers in basically every inhabited time zone, the
> >     call will definitely take place in the middle of somebody's night, and
> >     during somebody else's normal family time.  Publishing the recordings
> >     helps ameliorate some of this, but I feel we should shift the time
> >     around.  Having it at the same time of day helps people fit it into
> >     their schedule of other meetings (and meals), but I think the benefits
> >     of allowing more people to participate live outweighs the costs.
>
> Hard question without any good answer. You can rotate preferred timezone
> which should spread the suffering.
What I found useful is to have a fixed schedule for the actual talk, but 
keep the recording online for an extended time (say 24h). And require 
the presenters to be available in a break-out room for any questions for 
an extended time, too.
That way any participant can choose which time would suit him best to 
watch the presentation, _and_ being reasonably sure that he can fire up 
questions later on.

> >   - Schedule.  Friday's probably a bad day to have it, as it ends up
> >     being Saturday for some people.  It can move around the week too.
> >     Also, probably wise to not have it over Christmas as most developers
> >     have that period as family time.
>
> Yes, Friday tends to be not great. I think mid week should work better
> as the overalap
>
> >   - Topics.  I'm sure there's no shortage of things to discuss!  I'm
> >     happy to organise meetings for people even on topics I have no direct
> >     interest in.
>
> Thanks for organizing this. I am pretty sure poeple will land on topics
> either in the call or over email.
>
> > And most urgently, when should we have the GUP meeting? On the call,
> > I suggested Friday the 8th of January, but I'm happy to set something
> > up for next week if we'd like to talk more urgently.
>
> I am unlikely to be able to join before the end of year so if you ask
> me.
>
> Thanks again and fingers crossed we can actually have a face to face
> meeting sometimes during next year.
I'd side with Michal here; having something this year will be 
challenging, as quite some ppl (myself included) will be on holiday.
Rather move it to start of next year; mid-February would be a good time, 
giving enough room to organize etc.

Cheers,

Hannes
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