Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero

[Jason Wang]

On 2021/2/23 6:58 下午, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 18:31:07 +0800
> Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On 2021/2/23 6:04 下午, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:46:20 +0800
> > > Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On 2021/2/23 下午5:25, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 09:09:28AM -0800, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
> > > > > > On 2/21/2021 8:14 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > On 2021/2/19 7:54 下午, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
> > > > > > > > Commit 452639a64ad8 ("vdpa: make sure set_features is invoked
> > > > > > > > for legacy") made an exception for legacy guests to reset
> > > > > > > > features to 0, when config space is accessed before features
> > > > > > > > are set. We should relieve the verify_min_features() check
> > > > > > > > and allow features reset to 0 for this case.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's worth noting that not just legacy guests could access
> > > > > > > > config space before features are set. For instance, when
> > > > > > > > feature VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is advertised some modern driver
> > > > > > > > will try to access and validate the MTU present in the config
> > > > > > > > space before virtio features are set.
> > > > > > > This looks like a spec violation:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The following driver-read-only field, mtu only exists if
> > > > > > > VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set. This field specifies the maximum MTU for the
> > > > > > > driver to use.
> > > > > > > "
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do we really want to workaround this?
> > > > > > Isn't the commit 452639a64ad8 itself is a workaround for legacy guest?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the point is, since there's legacy guest we'd have to support, this
> > > > > > host side workaround is unavoidable. Although I agree the violating driver
> > > > > > should be fixed (yes, it's in today's upstream kernel which exists for a
> > > > > > while now).
> > > > > Oh  you are right:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > static int virtnet_validate(struct virtio_device *vdev)
> > > > > {
> > > > >            if (!vdev->config->get) {
> > > > >                    dev_err(&vdev->dev, "%s failure: config access disabled\n",
> > > > >                            __func__);
> > > > >                    return -EINVAL;
> > > > >            }
> > > > >
> > > > >            if (!virtnet_validate_features(vdev))
> > > > >                    return -EINVAL;
> > > > >
> > > > >            if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU)) {
> > > > >                    int mtu = virtio_cread16(vdev,
> > > > >                                             offsetof(struct virtio_net_config,
> > > > >                                                      mtu));
> > > > >                    if (mtu < MIN_MTU)
> > > > >                            __virtio_clear_bit(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU);
> > > > I wonder why not simply fail here?
> > > I think both failing or not accepting the feature can be argued to make
> > > sense: "the device presented us with a mtu size that does not make
> > > sense" would point to failing, "we cannot work with the mtu size that
> > > the device presented us" would point to not negotiating the feature.
> > >   
> > > >   
> > > > >            }
> > > > >
> > > > >            return 0;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > And the spec says:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The driver MUST follow this sequence to initialize a device:
> > > > > 1. Reset the device.
> > > > > 2. Set the ACKNOWLEDGE status bit: the guest OS has noticed the device.
> > > > > 3. Set the DRIVER status bit: the guest OS knows how to drive the device.
> > > > > 4. Read device feature bits, and write the subset of feature bits understood by the OS and driver to the
> > > > > device. During this step the driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write) the device-specific configuration
> > > > > fields to check that it can support the device before accepting it.
> > > > > 5. Set the FEATURES_OK status bit. The driver MUST NOT accept new feature bits after this step.
> > > > > 6. Re-read device status to ensure the FEATURES_OK bit is still set: otherwise, the device does not
> > > > > support our subset of features and the device is unusable.
> > > > > 7. Perform device-specific setup, including discovery of virtqueues for the device, optional per-bus setup,
> > > > > reading and possibly writing the device’s virtio configuration space, and population of virtqueues.
> > > > > 8. Set the DRIVER_OK status bit. At this point the device is “live”.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Item 4 on the list explicitly allows reading config space before
> > > > > FEATURES_OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > I conclude that VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set means "set in device features".
> > > > So this probably need some clarification. "is set" is used many times in
> > > > the spec that has different implications.
> > > Before FEATURES_OK is set by the driver, I guess it means "the device
> > > has offered the feature";
> >
> > For me this part is ok since it clarify that it's the driver that set
> > the bit.
> >
> >
> >
> > > during normal usage, it means "the feature
> > > has been negotiated".
> > /?
> >
> > It looks to me the feature negotiation is done only after device set
> > FEATURES_OK, or FEATURES_OK could be read from device status?
> I'd consider feature negotiation done when the driver reads FEATURES_OK
> back from the status.


I agree.


> > >    (This is a bit fuzzy for legacy mode.)
> ...because legacy does not have FEATURES_OK.
>    
> > The problem is the MTU description for example:
> >
> > "The following driver-read-only field, mtu only exists if
> > VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set."
> >
> > It looks to me need to use "if VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set by device".
> "offered by the device"? I don't think it should 'disappear' from the
> config space if the driver won't use it. (Same for other config space
> fields that are tied to feature bits.)


But what happens if e.g device doesn't offer VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU? It looks 
to according to the spec there will be no mtu field.

And a more interesting case is VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ is not offered but 
VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU offered. To me, it means we don't have 
max_virtqueue_pairs but it's not how the driver is wrote today.


>   
> > Otherwise readers (at least for me), may think the MTU is only valid
> > if driver set the bit.
> I think it would still be 'valid' in the sense that it exists and has
> some value in there filled in by the device, but a driver reading it
> without negotiating the feature would be buggy. (Like in the kernel
> code above; the kernel not liking the value does not make the field
> invalid.)


See Michael's reply, the spec allows read the config before setting 
features.


> Maybe a statement covering everything would be:
>
> "The following driver-read-only field mtu only exists if the device
> offers VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU and may be read by the driver during feature
> negotiation and after VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU has been successfully
> negotiated."
>
> > > Should we add a wording clarification to the spec?
> >
> > I think so.
> Some clarification would be needed for each field that depends on a
> feature; that would be quite verbose. Maybe we can get away with a
> clarifying statement?
>
> "Some config space fields may depend on a certain feature. In that
> case, the field exits if the device has offered the corresponding
> feature,


So this implies for !VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ && VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU, the config 
will look like:

struct virtio_net_config {
        u8 mac[6];
        le16 status;
        le16 mtu;
};


>   and may be read by the driver during feature negotiation, and
> accessed by the driver after the feature has been successfully
> negotiated. A shorthand for this is a statement that a field only
> exists if a certain feature bit is set."


I'm not sure using "shorthand" is good for the spec, at least we can 
limit the its scope only to the configuration space part.

Thanks


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