On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:29:07 +0800
Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2021/2/23 6:58 下午, Cornelia Huck wrote:I think so, yes.
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 18:31:07 +0800
Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2021/2/23 6:04 下午, Cornelia Huck wrote:I'd consider feature negotiation done when the driver reads FEATURES_OK
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:46:20 +0800For me this part is ok since it clarify that it's the driver that set
Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2021/2/23 下午5:25, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:I think both failing or not accepting the feature can be argued to make
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 09:09:28AM -0800, Si-Wei Liu wrote:I wonder why not simply fail here?
On 2/21/2021 8:14 PM, Jason Wang wrote:Oh you are right:
On 2021/2/19 7:54 下午, Si-Wei Liu wrote:Isn't the commit 452639a64ad8 itself is a workaround for legacy guest?
Commit 452639a64ad8 ("vdpa: make sure set_features is invokedThis looks like a spec violation:
for legacy") made an exception for legacy guests to reset
features to 0, when config space is accessed before features
are set. We should relieve the verify_min_features() check
and allow features reset to 0 for this case.
It's worth noting that not just legacy guests could access
config space before features are set. For instance, when
feature VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is advertised some modern driver
will try to access and validate the MTU present in the config
space before virtio features are set.
"
The following driver-read-only field, mtu only exists if
VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set. This field specifies the maximum MTU for the
driver to use.
"
Do we really want to workaround this?
I think the point is, since there's legacy guest we'd have to support, this
host side workaround is unavoidable. Although I agree the violating driver
should be fixed (yes, it's in today's upstream kernel which exists for a
while now).
static int virtnet_validate(struct virtio_device *vdev)
{
if (!vdev->config->get) {
dev_err(&vdev->dev, "%s failure: config access disabled\n",
__func__);
return -EINVAL;
}
if (!virtnet_validate_features(vdev))
return -EINVAL;
if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU)) {
int mtu = virtio_cread16(vdev,
offsetof(struct virtio_net_config,
mtu));
if (mtu < MIN_MTU)
__virtio_clear_bit(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU);
sense: "the device presented us with a mtu size that does not make
sense" would point to failing, "we cannot work with the mtu size that
the device presented us" would point to not negotiating the feature.
Before FEATURES_OK is set by the driver, I guess it means "the device}So this probably need some clarification. "is set" is used many times in
return 0;
}
And the spec says:
The driver MUST follow this sequence to initialize a device:
1. Reset the device.
2. Set the ACKNOWLEDGE status bit: the guest OS has noticed the device.
3. Set the DRIVER status bit: the guest OS knows how to drive the device.
4. Read device feature bits, and write the subset of feature bits understood by the OS and driver to the
device. During this step the driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write) the device-specific configuration
fields to check that it can support the device before accepting it.
5. Set the FEATURES_OK status bit. The driver MUST NOT accept new feature bits after this step.
6. Re-read device status to ensure the FEATURES_OK bit is still set: otherwise, the device does not
support our subset of features and the device is unusable.
7. Perform device-specific setup, including discovery of virtqueues for the device, optional per-bus setup,
reading and possibly writing the device’s virtio configuration space, and population of virtqueues.
8. Set the DRIVER_OK status bit. At this point the device is “live”.
Item 4 on the list explicitly allows reading config space before
FEATURES_OK.
I conclude that VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set means "set in device features".
the spec that has different implications.
has offered the feature";
the bit.
during normal usage, it means "the feature/?
has been negotiated".
It looks to me the feature negotiation is done only after device set
FEATURES_OK, or FEATURES_OK could be read from device status?
back from the status.
I agree.
...because legacy does not have FEATURES_OK.(This is a bit fuzzy for legacy mode.)
The problem is the MTU description for example:"offered by the device"? I don't think it should 'disappear' from the
"The following driver-read-only field, mtu only exists if
VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set."
It looks to me need to use "if VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set by device".
config space if the driver won't use it. (Same for other config space
fields that are tied to feature bits.)
But what happens if e.g device doesn't offer VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU? It looks
to according to the spec there will be no mtu field.
And a more interesting case is VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ is not offered butThat would be a bug, but it seems to me that the virtio-net driver
VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU offered. To me, it means we don't have
max_virtqueue_pairs but it's not how the driver is wrote today.
reads max_virtqueue_pairs conditionally and handles absence of the
feature correctly?
Yes, the period prior to finishing negotiation is obviously special.
Otherwise readers (at least for me), may think the MTU is only validI think it would still be 'valid' in the sense that it exists and has
if driver set the bit.
some value in there filled in by the device, but a driver reading it
without negotiating the feature would be buggy. (Like in the kernel
code above; the kernel not liking the value does not make the field
invalid.)
See Michael's reply, the spec allows read the config before setting
features.
I agree.
Maybe a statement covering everything would be:
"The following driver-read-only field mtu only exists if the device
offers VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU and may be read by the driver during feature
negotiation and after VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU has been successfully
negotiated."
Some clarification would be needed for each field that depends on aShould we add a wording clarification to the spec?I think so.
feature; that would be quite verbose. Maybe we can get away with a
clarifying statement?
"Some config space fields may depend on a certain feature. In that
case, the field exits if the device has offered the corresponding
feature,
So this implies for !VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ && VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU, the config
will look like:
struct virtio_net_config {
u8 mac[6];
le16 status;
le16 mtu;
};
Maybe "a shorthand expression"?and may be read by the driver during feature negotiation, and
accessed by the driver after the feature has been successfully
negotiated. A shorthand for this is a statement that a field only
exists if a certain feature bit is set."
I'm not sure using "shorthand" is good for the spec, at least we can
limit the its scope only to the configuration space part.