Re: find_new_ilb

From: Vincent Guittot
Date: Wed Jun 09 2021 - 03:19:00 EST


On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 09:12, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 09:51:30PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > Starting from the following commit:
> >
> > commit 45da7a2b0af8fa29dff2e6ba8926322068350fce
> > Author: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Tue Aug 18 10:48:17 2020 +0200
> >
> > sched/fair: Exclude the current CPU from find_new_ilb()
> >
> > up through Linux 5.12, I observed that often when most of the machine was
> > idle, there could be many (thousands) of sched_wake_idle_without_ipi
> > events, typically between cores 0 and 1. I don't see this any more in
> > Linux v5.13-rc1. I looked through the patches to fair.c and core.c
> > subsequent to v5.12, and I didn't see anything that explicitly addresses
> > this issue. Before I plunge into another set of rounds of bisecting, I
> > wonder if anyone knows whether and how this problem was resolved?
>
> Hurmph.. that patch was preparation for a later change that never seems
> to have happened. If it is causing trouble for you, I think you can
> savely revert it.
>
> At the time I thought it was very strange that new_idle would select
> itself as idle-balancer, doubly so, because the only way to get there
> would be with NEED_RESCHED already set, so the IPI wouldn't in fact do
> anything.
>
> Looking again, the difference is ofcourse that previously we'd select
> self and NO-OP, but now we'll potentially select another CPU and
> actually do something.
>
> This is arguably an improvement, because we did want to do something.
>
> I can't quite remember what would've change here since, Vincent, can
> you remember?

c6f886546cb8 ("sched/fair: Trigger the update of blocked load on newly
idle cpu") could be the one which fixes it.
We don't kick_ilb from newilde_balance() since this commit

>
> Anyway, is this actually causing you trouble, or are you just going on
> the increased number of events?